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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 1, 2023 16:47:29 GMT
A think tank has proposed the UK Government should introduce ’pay-as-you-drive’ tax for electric vehicles (EVs) to replace lost revenues from fuel duty and VED. The Centre for Policy Studies recommends in its report ‘The Future of Driving’ that zero emission vehicles (ZEVs) should be charged a flat rate for every mile they drive, with the aim that they would still be paying significantly less than their petrol and diesel counterparts. www.am-online.com/news/market-insight/2023/05/24/govt-advised-to-apply-pay-as-you-go-road-tax-for-evsThe recommended charge is 6p per mile which is still less than petrol/diesel fuel duty. But it's not going to stay at 6p per mile is it, like everything it will go up. The wheels seem to be comming off the electric vehicle dream.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 1, 2023 16:51:06 GMT
A think tank has proposed the UK Government should introduce ’pay-as-you-drive’ tax for electric vehicles (EVs) to replace lost revenues from fuel duty and VED. The Centre for Policy Studies recommends in its report ‘The Future of Driving’ that zero emission vehicles (ZEVs) should be charged a flat rate for every mile they drive, with the aim that they would still be paying significantly less than their petrol and diesel counterparts. www.am-online.com/news/market-insight/2023/05/24/govt-advised-to-apply-pay-as-you-go-road-tax-for-evsThe recommended charge is 6p per mile which is still less than petrol/diesel fuel duty. But it's not going to stay at 6p per mile is it, like everything it will go up. The wheels seem to be comming off the electric vehicle dream. In Australia and New Zealand mate they have to pay in advance. And if they go just a hundred yards further than their agreed distance it's a 10 k fine...
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 1, 2023 16:53:06 GMT
A think tank has proposed the UK Government should introduce ’pay-as-you-drive’ tax for electric vehicles (EVs) to replace lost revenues from fuel duty and VED. The Centre for Policy Studies recommends in its report ‘The Future of Driving’ that zero emission vehicles (ZEVs) should be charged a flat rate for every mile they drive, with the aim that they would still be paying significantly less than their petrol and diesel counterparts. www.am-online.com/news/market-insight/2023/05/24/govt-advised-to-apply-pay-as-you-go-road-tax-for-evsThe recommended charge is 6p per mile which is still less than petrol/diesel fuel duty. But it's not going to stay at 6p per mile is it, like everything it will go up. The wheels seem to be comming off the electric vehicle dream. In Australia and New Zealand mate they have to pay in advance. And if they go just a hundred yards further than their agreed distance it's a 10 k fine... Really? Excellent. The government should adopt the same policy in this country. Lets hope they do.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 1, 2023 16:56:00 GMT
A think tank has proposed the UK Government should introduce ’pay-as-you-drive’ tax for electric vehicles (EVs) to replace lost revenues from fuel duty and VED. The Centre for Policy Studies recommends in its report ‘The Future of Driving’ that zero emission vehicles (ZEVs) should be charged a flat rate for every mile they drive, with the aim that they would still be paying significantly less than their petrol and diesel counterparts. www.am-online.com/news/market-insight/2023/05/24/govt-advised-to-apply-pay-as-you-go-road-tax-for-evsThe recommended charge is 6p per mile which is still less than petrol/diesel fuel duty. But it's not going to stay at 6p per mile is it, like everything it will go up. The wheels seem to be coming off the electric vehicle dream. Not really. This just marks acceptance that EVs are the future and the taxman wants his cut.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 1, 2023 16:56:11 GMT
In Australia and New Zealand mate they have to pay in advance. And if they go just a hundred yards further than their agreed distance it's a 10 k fine... Really? Excellent. The government should adopt the same policy in this country. Lets hope they do. The sooner our roads are cleared of that shite the better mate.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 1, 2023 16:58:52 GMT
Really? Excellent. The government should adopt the same policy in this country. Lets hope they do. The sooner our roads are cleared of that shite the better mate. What shite would that be? Noisy, noxious fumed, CO2 belching internal combustion engines?
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 1, 2023 17:04:43 GMT
In Australia and New Zealand mate they have to pay in advance. And if they go just a hundred yards further than their agreed distance it's a 10 k fine... Really? Excellent. The government should adopt the same policy in this country. Lets hope they do. Since odometers can be easily disabled it's quite likely tracking devices such as the ''black boxes'' used by young drivers to reduce their insurance premiums would be used. Is that the future you want for motorists Red? More surveillance of citizens' movements?
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Post by jonksy on Jun 1, 2023 17:09:37 GMT
The sooner our roads are cleared of that shite the better mate. What shite would that be? Noisy, noxious fumed, CO2 belching internal combustion engines? The shite that is called EV's which are respocible for killing thousands.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 1, 2023 17:13:39 GMT
A think tank has proposed the UK Government should introduce ’pay-as-you-drive’ tax for electric vehicles (EVs) to replace lost revenues from fuel duty and VED. The Centre for Policy Studies recommends in its report ‘The Future of Driving’ that zero emission vehicles (ZEVs) should be charged a flat rate for every mile they drive, with the aim that they would still be paying significantly less than their petrol and diesel counterparts. www.am-online.com/news/market-insight/2023/05/24/govt-advised-to-apply-pay-as-you-go-road-tax-for-evsThe recommended charge is 6p per mile which is still less than petrol/diesel fuel duty. But it's not going to stay at 6p per mile is it, like everything it will go up. The wheels seem to be coming off the electric vehicle dream. Not really. This just marks acceptance that EVs are the future and the taxman wants his cut. You think? I tend to disagree. EV's are expensive to buy and are unlikely to become more affordable over time. Soaring energy costs mean it will become increasingly expensive charge an EV. They are still largely unproven, but an EV battery is unlikely to last anywhere near as long as a petrol/diesel engine. EV's are an environmental nightmare to build and to dispose of. EV's never meet range targets which are reduced even further in cold weather. EV's cause more damage to roads than petrol/diesel cars a fact that councils are slowly realising. Councils are considering banning EV's from multi story car parks due their weight and because they're a fire hazard. Monte, the promises made about electric cars a few years ago, are slowly crumbling.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 1, 2023 17:17:48 GMT
Not really. This just marks acceptance that EVs are the future and the taxman wants his cut. You think? I tend to disagree. EV's are expensive to buy and are unlikely to become more affordable over time. Soaring energy costs mean it will become increasingly expensive charge an EV. They are still largely unproven, but an EV battery is unlikely to last anywhere near as long as a petrol/diesel car. EV's are an environmental nightmare build and to dispose of. EV's never meet range targets which are reduced even further in cold weather. EV's cause more damage to roads than petrol/diesel cars a fact that councils are slowly realising. Councils are considering banning EV's from multi story car parks due their weight and because they're a fire hazard. Monte, the promises made about electric cars a few years ago, are slowly crumbling. Cost of electric car rapid charging rises 58% in eight months The average pay-as-you-go rate at a public rapid charger is now 70.32p/kWh due to rising wholesale electricity prices
Diesel was reduced today by 7p per ltr. Good innit?
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 1, 2023 17:17:57 GMT
Really? Excellent. The government should adopt the same policy in this country. Lets hope they do. Since odometers can be easily disabled it's quite likely tracking devices such as the ''black boxes'' used by young drivers to reduce their insurance premiums would be used. Is that the future you want for motorists Red? More surveillance of citizens' movements? Pay per mile charging on EV's will be monitored via GPS tracking, obviously. Just another reason I wont be driving an electric car.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 1, 2023 17:19:38 GMT
You think? I tend to disagree. EV's are expensive to buy and are unlikely to become more affordable over time. Soaring energy costs mean it will become increasingly expensive charge an EV. They are still largely unproven, but an EV battery is unlikely to last anywhere near as long as a petrol/diesel car. EV's are an environmental nightmare build and to dispose of. EV's never meet range targets which are reduced even further in cold weather. EV's cause more damage to roads than petrol/diesel cars a fact that councils are slowly realising. Councils are considering banning EV's from multi story car parks due their weight and because they're a fire hazard. Monte, the promises made about electric cars a few years ago, are slowly crumbling. Cost of electric car rapid charging rises 58% in eight months The average pay-as-you-go rate at a public rapid charger is now 70.32p/kWh due to rising wholesale electricity prices
Diesel was reduced today by 7p per ltr. Good innit? Quite so Jonksy, I mentioned elsewhere that supermarket petrol/diesel has come down in price quite a lot over the past few weeks.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 1, 2023 17:19:54 GMT
Since odometers can be easily disabled it's quite likely tracking devices such as the ''black boxes'' used by young drivers to reduce their insurance premiums would be used. Is that the future you want for motorists Red? More surveillance of citizens' movements? Pay per mile charging on EV's will be monitored via GPS tracking, obviously. Just another reason I wont be driving an electric car.And neither will anyone else who has working braincell mate.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 1, 2023 17:24:09 GMT
Since odometers can be easily disabled it's quite likely tracking devices such as the ''black boxes'' used by young drivers to reduce their insurance premiums would be used. Is that the future you want for motorists Red? More surveillance of citizens' movements? Pay per mile charging on EV's will be monitored via GPS tracking, obviously. Just another reason I wont be driving an electric car. I'd prefer it to fuel and road tax - it has the benefit that you can have dynamic pricing where those who travel at peak times on the most congested roads pay more than those who travel on remote country lanes. Then the polluter pays.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 1, 2023 17:28:48 GMT
Pay per mile charging on EV's will be monitored via GPS tracking, obviously. Just another reason I wont be driving an electric car. I'd prefer it to fuel and road tax - it has the benefit that you can have dynamic pricing where those who travel at peak times on the most congested roads pay more than those who travel on remote country lanes. Then the polluter pays. Yes I understand that, but personally I don't want to be monitored. I don't want 'the state' to know where I go, or on what date I go there, or what route I took to get there etc etc. We're monitored and tracked enough.
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