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Post by Pacifico on Jun 2, 2023 10:53:39 GMT
Everyday story of what happens to black people in London Bianca Williams is a black British athlete, she has won several medals for Great Britain and England, including in the Commonwealth Games as a runner. In 2020, Bianca Williams and her partner, Portugese athlete Ricardo Dos Santos, were driving through Londons west end with their baby in a Mercedes Sports Car. The couple were stopped by police officers and abruptly ordered to get out of the car, Mr Dos Santos was pulled out of the car and handcuffed, whilst Miss Williams was also ordered out of the car, thereby leaving her 3 month old baby on the back seat. They had done nothing wrong The couple were guilty of been a young black couple driving an expensive car <----- THAT was their crime The police made up stories, including that they thought that they could smell Cannabis coming from the car ( Lies ) This YouTube footage was shown across Canada, it brings shame upon The Metrepolitan Police Black people in Britain are today TEN TIMES more likely to be stopped by police officers than white people in "Stop & Search". Black Lives Matter is for a valid reason, it is because prejudice is very much alive and kicking in this country, especially in the police. www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jfpckvSE7w What has this got to do with the taxation of electric cars?....  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2023 17:17:41 GMT
A think tank has proposed the UK Government should introduce ’pay-as-you-drive’ tax for electric vehicles (EVs) to replace lost revenues from fuel duty and VED. The Centre for Policy Studies recommends in its report ‘The Future of Driving’ that zero emission vehicles (ZEVs) should be charged a flat rate for every mile they drive, with the aim that they would still be paying significantly less than their petrol and diesel counterparts. www.am-online.com/news/market-insight/2023/05/24/govt-advised-to-apply-pay-as-you-go-road-tax-for-evsThe recommended charge is 6p per mile which is still less than petrol/diesel fuel duty. But it's not going to stay at 6p per mile is it, like everything it will go up. The wheels seem to be comming off the electric vehicle dream. What's wrong with ALL cars paying £150 a year, regardless. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 2, 2023 22:43:09 GMT
A think tank has proposed the UK Government should introduce ’pay-as-you-drive’ tax for electric vehicles (EVs) to replace lost revenues from fuel duty and VED. The Centre for Policy Studies recommends in its report ‘The Future of Driving’ that zero emission vehicles (ZEVs) should be charged a flat rate for every mile they drive, with the aim that they would still be paying significantly less than their petrol and diesel counterparts. www.am-online.com/news/market-insight/2023/05/24/govt-advised-to-apply-pay-as-you-go-road-tax-for-evsThe recommended charge is 6p per mile which is still less than petrol/diesel fuel duty. But it's not going to stay at 6p per mile is it, like everything it will go up. The wheels seem to be comming off the electric vehicle dream. What's wrong with ALL cars paying £150 a year, regardless. Lack of disincentive to buy heavily polluting cars. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 3, 2023 7:11:09 GMT
What's wrong with ALL cars paying £150 a year, regardless. Lack of disincentive to buy heavily polluting cars. You wont have a choice soon - you difference between a Tesla and a Polestar is pretty minimal. Personally I prefer pay by mile as you target those that cause the most congestion. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 3, 2023 7:40:54 GMT
Anyway - it looks like we have solved the problem with EV's...  Porsche efuels plant is being scaled up. "$6 billion plant ...make 200 million gallons of greener fuels" wind power to petrol and jet fuel. $5 a gallon. Problem solved by technology |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2023 11:01:50 GMT
A think tank has proposed the UK Government should introduce ’pay-as-you-drive’ tax for electric vehicles (EVs) to replace lost revenues from fuel duty and VED. The Centre for Policy Studies recommends in its report ‘The Future of Driving’ that zero emission vehicles (ZEVs) should be charged a flat rate for every mile they drive, with the aim that they would still be paying significantly less than their petrol and diesel counterparts. www.am-online.com/news/market-insight/2023/05/24/govt-advised-to-apply-pay-as-you-go-road-tax-for-evsThe recommended charge is 6p per mile which is still less than petrol/diesel fuel duty. But it's not going to stay at 6p per mile is it, like everything it will go up. The wheels seem to be comming off the electric vehicle dream. What's wrong with ALL cars paying £150 a year, regardless. On top of fuel duty and road tax? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2023 11:05:53 GMT
What's wrong with ALL cars paying £150 a year, regardless. On top of fuel duty and road tax? No, I meant Vehicle Excise Duty. (Road Tax). All these cars wear out the roads and they need the potholes repairing. Fuel duty is a different matter. There are already taxes on electricity. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 3, 2023 14:50:42 GMT
Anyway - it looks like we have solved the problem with EV's... Porsche efuels plant is being scaled up. "$6 billion plant ...make 200 million gallons of greener fuels" wind power to petrol and jet fuel. $5 a gallon. Problem solved by technology Doesn't solve the problem of CO2 emissions though. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 3, 2023 17:10:23 GMT
Anyway - it looks like we have solved the problem with EV's... Porsche efuels plant is being scaled up. "$6 billion plant ...make 200 million gallons of greener fuels" wind power to petrol and jet fuel. $5 a gallon. Problem solved by technology Doesn't solve the problem of CO2 emissions though. They are CO2 neutral - the CO2 they produce from the vehicle is offset by the CO2 taken from the atmosphere in the production phase. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 3, 2023 17:32:50 GMT
Doesn't solve the problem of CO2 emissions though. They are CO2 neutral - the CO2 they produce from the vehicle is offset by the CO2 taken from the atmosphere in the production phase. The link is behind a paywall so I couldn't read the article. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2023 17:43:21 GMT
Doesn't solve the problem of CO2 emissions though. They are CO2 neutral - the CO2 they produce from the vehicle is offset by the CO2 taken from the atmosphere in the production phase. All the major vehicle manufacturers are dropping EV's they have proven to be useless and just pie in the eco-zealots sky....They wont be missed.......Even JCB are now producing diggers and dumpers that run on Hydrogen. All these idiots who dashed out to purchase EV's have very expensive eggs on their faces. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2023 17:57:27 GMT
On top of fuel duty and road tax? No, I meant Vehicle Excise Duty. (Road Tax). All these cars wear out the roads and they need the potholes repairing. Fuel duty is a different matter. There are already taxes on electricity. The heavier the vehicle the more road damage it causes, therefor the weight of a car should determine the level of road tax. As it does with lorries. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2023 18:11:00 GMT
No, I meant Vehicle Excise Duty. (Road Tax). All these cars wear out the roads and they need the potholes repairing. Fuel duty is a different matter. There are already taxes on electricity. The heavier the vehicle the more road damage it causes, therefor the weight of a car should determine the level of road tax. As it does with lorries. That's a good point, so electric cars could pay more as their batteries weigh a lot. Unless there was a less than 2 ton bracket, they would keep them in that. £150 Then up to 3.5 ton, 7 ton, and anything over 7 tons pays £1000 per annum. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 3, 2023 18:28:29 GMT
What makes me laugh is that the EU has demanded a phone chip in every car for some years now do its not just EVs that are being tracked. And charging points at home are new required to gave a ‘rat to the government’ chip telling them exactly how much juice you fill the car with.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 3, 2023 18:36:57 GMT
No, I meant Vehicle Excise Duty. (Road Tax). All these cars wear out the roads and they need the potholes repairing. Fuel duty is a different matter. There are already taxes on electricity. The heavier the vehicle the more road damage it causes, therefor the weight of a car should determine the level of road tax. As it does with lorries. So glad you have come around to the idea of punitive taxes for the more damaging vehicles on the road. Now about your gas guzzling, 2 tonne, V8... |
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