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Post by happyhornet on May 26, 2024 17:02:44 GMT
Judging by the across the spectrum reactions here, I doubt this gimmick will be a vote winner for them, and looks like an act of utter desperation by a leadership in panic. I think it's designed to claw some votes back from Reform. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 17:21:20 GMT
Judging by the across the spectrum reactions here, I doubt this gimmick will be a vote winner for them, and looks like an act of utter desperation by a leadership in panic. I think it's designed to claw some votes back from Reform. Yes it's definitely an obvious play for the gammon vote. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 26, 2024 17:38:52 GMT
The recruitment system that is outsourced to Capita is targeted with increasing the numbers of ethnic minorities - once you recruit more then more will be fast tracked into senior positions - justy as we have seen with the Police Force. I specifically mentioned the promotion system. Yes - and as I pointed out the Forces will follow the example of the Police.  |
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Post by johnofgwent on May 26, 2024 18:41:11 GMT
I think it's designed to claw some votes back from Reform. Yes it's definitely an obvious play for the gammon vote. Except that as a proud porker I think this is utter bollox Try again |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 18:48:11 GMT
Yes it's definitely an obvious play for the gammon vote. Except that as a proud porker I think this is utter bollox Try again You might be a proud gammon, but that you think this is utter bollox as well shows what a misstep it is, in spite of it's obvious attempt to appeal to the gammonocracy They could easily end up disowning this policy before polling day, lol |
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Post by johnofgwent on May 26, 2024 19:06:54 GMT
Except that as a proud porker I think this is utter bollox Try again You might be a proud gammon, but that you think this is utter bollox as well shows what a misstep it is, in spite of it's obvious attempt to appeal to the gammonocracy They could easily end up disowning this policy before polling day, lol But it DOESN'T 'appeal to the gammonocracy' does it. Half the bloody leave vote came from Labour, for a start. |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 26, 2024 19:11:19 GMT
You might be a proud gammon, but that you think this is utter bollox as well shows what a misstep it is, in spite of it's obvious attempt to appeal to the gammonocracy They could easily end up disowning this policy before polling day, lol But it DOESN'T 'appeal to the gammonocracy' does it. Half the bloody leave vote came from Labour, for a start. Whilst that's more than true, this is aimed at those who voted Tory in 2019 but are considering Reform this time round. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 19:13:19 GMT
You might be a proud gammon, but that you think this is utter bollox as well shows what a misstep it is, in spite of it's obvious attempt to appeal to the gammonocracy They could easily end up disowning this policy before polling day, lol But it DOESN'T 'appeal to the gammonocracy' does it. Half the bloody leave vote came from Labour, for a start. Many of them were still part of the gammonacracy. Yet if the policy fails to appeal to said gammonocracy, it is a failure of the policy to appeal to them, not a lack of intent for it to do so.. |
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Post by Dogburger on May 26, 2024 19:35:55 GMT
Really bad idea IMO . The Kids won't want to do it (18 year old me would tell him to poke it where the sun don't shine ) you can't force them and the armed services wont want children with 12 months training in the way if it all kicks off .
Be far better to pay those who want to join for real (5 year min) a decent salary followed by an armed forces covenant that includes first dibs on social housing or government assisted mortgages, free private health care for life , guaranteed employment offers and a decent pension .
Might get a few takers if we treat our forces as we should do.
Still like planes to Rwanda its never going to happen
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Post by johnofgwent on May 26, 2024 19:40:09 GMT
But it DOESN'T 'appeal to the gammonocracy' does it. Half the bloody leave vote came from Labour, for a start. Many of them were still part of the gammonacracy. Yet if the policy fails to appeal to said gammonocracy, it is a failure of the policy to appeal to them, not a lack of intent for it to do so.. Ok so have you looked at what they say this IS 30,000 12 month placements for the 'brightest and best' in cyber security, showing the hackers how the state find them, then chucking them on the dole to make use of those new found points of interest. It's on a par with Barclays Bank who insisted as part of my induction training as a developer of the loan website that I learn what measures the staff must take when opening and closing a branch. I'm never going to be a branch manager but if you ever want to do a blaggin' I know how they set the alarms. Letting NEETS into cyber security is about as stupid as that As for the rest, 25 days over 12 months volunteering for the NHS, Fire Brigade or Search and Rescue. I've worn a lab coat in an NHS Hospital, I've spent months sorting out the IT for Swindon Fire and Rescue and my daughter dragged me into her surf rescue lark. Trust me, those organisations need bored 18 year olds there because if they were not they would face unspecified 'non criminal sanctions' (probably loss of dole money) like they need a dose of the fucking clap |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 19:40:45 GMT
Really bad idea IMO . The Kids won't want to do it (18 year old me would tell him to poke it where the sun don't shine ) you can't force them and the armed services wont want children with 12 months training in the way if it all kicks off . Be far better to pay those who want to join for real (5 year min) a decent salary followed by an armed forces covenant that includes first dibs on social housing or government assisted mortgages, free private health care for life , guaranteed employment offers and a decent pension . Might get a few takers if we treat our forces as we should do. Still like planes to Rwanda its never going to happen Of course it is, which is why Labour's militants are the only ones making the claim that it's a vote winner. It'll probably be Sunak's clone Starmer who will implement it anyway. The Labour party love war. |
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Post by jonksy on May 26, 2024 20:20:56 GMT
Really bad idea IMO . The Kids won't want to do it (18 year old me would tell him to poke it where the sun don't shine ) you can't force them and the armed services wont want children with 12 months training in the way if it all kicks off . Be far better to pay those who want to join for real (5 year min) a decent salary followed by an armed forces covenant that includes first dibs on social housing or government assisted mortgages, free private health care for life , guaranteed employment offers and a decent pension . Might get a few takers if we treat our forces as we should do. Still like planes to Rwanda its never going to happen Of course it is, which is why Labour's militants are the only ones making the claim that it's a vote winner. It'll probably be Sunak's clone Starmer who will implement it anyway. The Labour party love war. It removes the fact that people will use a war as a talking point rather than talking about the bloody mess that labour always create. The lefty media love it and any bad news becomes a paragraph on page 5 rather than the front page.... |
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Post by wapentake on May 27, 2024 7:01:45 GMT
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Post by jonksy on May 27, 2024 7:22:45 GMT
They supply them in every colour of the rainbow.. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 27, 2024 9:00:58 GMT
Rishi Sunak says he will bring back National Service if Tories win general electionRishi Sunak has said he will introduce a new form of mandatory National Service for young people if the Conservatives win the general election. In the first new policy announcement of the campaign, the prime minister has unveiled a plan that would see 18-year-olds given the choice of a full-time military placement for 12 months or a scheme to volunteer for one weekend a month for a year. The placement would be selective - with tests used to decide who is eligible - and involve working with the armed forces or in cyber defence. The voluntary option would see young people spending 25 days with organisations such as the police, the fire service, the NHS, or charities that work with older isolated people. news.sky.com/story/sunak-says-he-will-bring-back-national-service-if-tories-win-general-election-13143184This is absolute nonsense. Sunak will not bring back 'national service' in any meaningful sense, or national service as we know it. It would be impossible in todays woke environment. National service was for a minimum of 18 months in the armed forces. Not 'up to' 25 days over a year on some mamby pamby course in which the instructors will inevitably see their fat pampered and bored charges as a pain in the arse. This is nothing more than a publicity stunt. In other words just another gimmick......and the young people forced to work a number of weekends for free will be as annoyed about having to do that as any of the rest of us would be and it will go down like a lead balloon amongst this age group. And it is rather ill though out on another level, that people don't work at weekends already. Many - including many young people - in fact already do Indeed yes, it's a gimmick, an ill thought out gimmick that will come to nothing because it hasn't been planned properly and will cost too much to implement monitor and in most cases, enforce. |
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