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Post by thomas on Mar 3, 2024 12:55:01 GMT
SNP depute leader: ‘Let’s consider withdrawing MPs from Westminster’ THE depute leader of the SNP has called for the party to consider withdrawing MPs from Westminster following the chaos over the party’s debate on a Gaza ceasefire. Writing in the Sunday National today, Keith Brown said the “shambolic events” in the House of Commons had not only overshadowed one of the “most important life-and-death issues of our time”, but also raised questions about the ability of Scotland’s representatives to have their say in Westminster. He said that while much of the focus had been around the role of the Speaker Lindsay Hoyle, it had been crucial in showing that Labour are “unrepentant about the illegitimate thwarting of the SNPs Opposition Day debate”. archive.is/K2K5u I doubt they will do it of course , but it would be great watching them do a Sinn Fein , and refuse to legitimise Westminster rule over scotland.
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Post by Hutchyns on Mar 3, 2024 13:52:07 GMT
It's a bit like every time the biased BBC disgraces itself again, the Government always claims they'll consider reining it in, purging it of Lefties, scrapping the licence fee, or Privatising it. And of course it always amounts to nothing more than brave words to suit the moment while the public are angry ...... and as soon as the rumpus has died down the BBC are allowed to continue on their merry way.
If the SNP were going to do something they would have done it. And the fact it's the Deputy leader being tasked with putting out an all talk no actual action comment, it's rather similar to the role Medvedev performs in Russia.
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Post by thomas on Mar 3, 2024 15:02:24 GMT
It's a bit like every time the biased BBC disgraces itself again, the Government always claims they'll consider reining it in, purging it of Lefties, scrapping the licence fee, or Privatising it. And of course it always amounts to nothing more than brave words to suit the moment while the public are angry ...... and as soon as the rumpus has died down the BBC are allowed to continue on their merry way. If the SNP were going to do something they would have done it. And the fact it's the Deputy leader being tasked with putting out an all talk no actual action comment, it's rather similar to the role Medvedev performs in Russia. I agree. There are too many troughers in the party that like the comfortable lifestyle. We certainly dont have any Eamon de Valeras , or Michael collins. However , there is a growing number of people in scotland now saying about nationalist mps taking the Sinn Fein route , as scotland is merely mocked and disrespected in your parliament. The hoylegate saga is merely the most recent example of that disrespect. Scotland is currently stuck with an old Irish nationalist type party , rather than a Sinn Fein. That hopefully will change though. to paraphrase the under secretary who once wrote to prime minister Pitt `by giving the jocks 59 seats in a parliament of 650 , they will be impotent to operate in that parliament , but it will be invested with jock assent to its authority.` Time to end that authority.
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Post by om15 on Mar 3, 2024 16:19:06 GMT
Scotland isn't, only those disgusting, dishonest, shrill and aggressive pikeys that you have chosen to represent you. Not one of your politicians since Kennedy has merited any respect what so ever, hence the mockery that these loathsome pond life engender from respectable Members.
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Post by thomas on Mar 3, 2024 16:35:25 GMT
Scotland isn't, only those disgusting, dishonest, shrill and aggressive pikeys that you have chosen to represent you. Not one of your politicians since Kennedy has merited any respect what so ever, hence the mockery that these loathsome pond life engender from respectable Members. we will vote in who we like. You dont like democracy do you in your country ommy? Moaning about who scotland , ireland , Wales or English constituencies like rochdale elect in a free and fair vote isnt the mark of a civilised society. It's not my fault your countries parties can't make the case for Scottish voters to vote for them ommy. No wonder your tories are predicted to lose nearly 60% of their 2019 voters with the guff you and your fellow travellers come out with. Tories could lose 58% of past voters in Scotland at next election, poll suggests
Senior Scottish Tory MSP Murdo Fraser also spoke at the event, telling members the party must focus more on attacking the SNP and its record in Government, rather than issues at a UK Government level.
“If the general election in Scotland is seen primarily as a test of how well the Conservative Government in Westminster has performed – that’s not going to help us, that’s to our disadvantage,” he said.
“If we can make the general election in Scotland about how the SNP Government is performing, that will be to our advantage and help drive tactical voters towards us.
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Post by om15 on Mar 3, 2024 20:45:23 GMT
No one is suggesting otherwise, if you choose a shower of loud mouthed morons to represent you that is your affair. My point was that your assertion that Scotland was degenerated in the HoC was incorrect, it is your SNPs not your country that are the subject of scorn and ridicule. I hope this clarifies my point.
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Post by thomas on Mar 4, 2024 8:22:57 GMT
No one is suggesting otherwise, if you choose a shower of loud mouthed morons to represent you that is your affair. My point was that your assertion that Scotland was degenerated in the HoC was incorrect, it is your SNPs not your country that are the subject of scorn and ridicule. I hope this clarifies my point. It doesn't. Whether or not you like , loathe or disagree with who we elect , they deserve respect. If long standing conventions are bent on snp opposition days because the speaker is in the pocket of your opposition leader , or tory mps shout out to snp politicians to fuck off back home , you are simply disrespecting your own legislature and making a mockery of it in the process. What do we expect though , when we've seen the behaviour of clowns like farage in our European Parliament ? As ive said , Sinn Fein perhaps have a point. They too argue there is no point going to Englands parliament to be ridiculed. Perhaps though I shouldn't push the point too hard ommy. When Scots see your parliament disrespect our elected representatives , the union loses more Scottish voters. I can't help you are too thick to understand this.
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Post by om15 on Mar 4, 2024 9:06:18 GMT
The SNP should have had their opposition day, what happened was wrong, and you will have noted the Tories supported the SNP by leaving the chamber. I was referring to the general appalling behaviour of the SNP MPs, this rabble regularly insult everyone else and are deserving of the disrespect shown to them. As for the Union losing more Scottish votes, well, you had your referendum, bottled it and it is no use wailing on about it now, you lot voted to stay in the Union, we didn't either make you or want you to vote that way, but you did.
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Post by thomas on Mar 4, 2024 9:18:58 GMT
The SNP should have had their opposition day, what happened was wrong, and you will have noted the Tories supported the SNP by leaving the chamber. I was referring to the general appalling behaviour of the SNP MPs, this rabble regularly insult everyone else and are deserving of the disrespect shown to them. As for the Union losing more Scottish votes, well, you had your referendum, bottled it and it is no use wailing on about it now, you lot voted to stay in the Union, we didn't either make you or want you to vote that way, but you did. you refer to what you want to refer to , while ignoring how badly the snp get treated , which equated to far more than hoylegate. As I said , you dont seem to twig the more the snp get insulted , the bigger support they get from Scots , and then you yourself are reduced down to squealing about stupid jocks voting for the snp and how you can't understand it. Im trying to help you understand. aye you told us to vote to stay in the union so we could stay I the EU. The Scottish unionist vote is now averaging half of what it was I the seventies. Your tory party is about to be widely decimated , losing 60% of its vote in scotland alone ,and you taken back into the EU .Either way , if bwitain doesn't break apart , you will have to go back to being the north west region of the European Union to keep it together for a short while longer. We will see how you like being reminded how we jocks didnt make you vote for starmer to take you back into Europe behind the Brussels bike sheds . We will be sending the big white feather over , and singing no surrender to the EU.
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Post by om15 on Mar 4, 2024 11:14:05 GMT
Shona Robison told BBC Scotland’s Sunday Show: “I think our SNP parliamentary group at Westminster has an important role to play in leading on issues like, for example, Gaza."
Why don't the SNP spend their time worrying about their own citizens welfare and concentrate on education, health, potholes, budgets, ferries, transport, industry and dentists and stop stealing members contributions.
I know why, it is easier and more fun to spout shite about transgender perverts, Gaza and re joining the EU, it doesn't achieve anything but is less challenging than doing what they are paid for and morally obliged to carry out. They are a shower of useless schemies and that is why they are held in contempt by Westminster. Found out where the missing £600,000 is yet?
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 4, 2024 11:50:36 GMT
I wonder if the Snats will be following Sinn Fein's lead in refusing to represent their constituents in Parliament while still continuing to trouser their emoluments?
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Post by om15 on Mar 4, 2024 12:29:53 GMT
Of course they will, as well as trousering contributions from party members, that is why they are there, certainly not to exert efforts on behalf of their constituents.
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Post by borchester on Mar 16, 2024 21:04:38 GMT
SNP depute leader: ‘Let’s consider withdrawing MPs from Westminster’ THE depute leader of the SNP has called for the party to consider withdrawing MPs from Westminster following the chaos over the party’s debate on a Gaza ceasefire. Writing in the Sunday National today, Keith Brown said the “shambolic events” in the House of Commons had not only overshadowed one of the “most important life-and-death issues of our time”, but also raised questions about the ability of Scotland’s representatives to have their say in Westminster. He said that while much of the focus had been around the role of the Speaker Lindsay Hoyle, it had been crucial in showing that Labour are “unrepentant about the illegitimate thwarting of the SNPs Opposition Day debate”. archive.is/K2K5u I doubt they will do it of course , but it would be great watching them do a Sinn Fein , and refuse to legitimise Westminster rule over scotland. Great idea.
This means that both Sinn Fein and the SNP will be ignored at Westminster.
Meanwhile, Humza Yousaf has declared that the next election will be a straight fight between the SNP and Labour for second place behind Labour.
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Post by jaydee on Mar 17, 2024 8:11:37 GMT
Scotland isn't, only those disgusting, dishonest, shrill and aggressive pikeys that you have chosen to represent you. Not one of your politicians since Kennedy has merited any respect what so ever, hence the mockery that these loathsome pond life engender from respectable Members. Mr stupid at his best. How does he describe them. Ah.. Dishonest, shrill and aggressive pikeys that you have chosen to represent you. Lets start with Bojoke, then go onto Truss, then 30 pence Anderson, then failing Grayling, Then the pantomime toff JRM, then the fascist Farage as a MEP. And of course the present squatter in No. 10. All cost the tax payer billions. Now would you care to point out which dishonest Scottish politician you had in mind. In that farce that is the joke of th world called Westminster.
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Post by jaydee on Mar 17, 2024 8:16:10 GMT
SNP depute leader: ‘Let’s consider withdrawing MPs from Westminster’ THE depute leader of the SNP has called for the party to consider withdrawing MPs from Westminster following the chaos over the party’s debate on a Gaza ceasefire. Writing in the Sunday National today, Keith Brown said the “shambolic events” in the House of Commons had not only overshadowed one of the “most important life-and-death issues of our time”, but also raised questions about the ability of Scotland’s representatives to have their say in Westminster. He said that while much of the focus had been around the role of the Speaker Lindsay Hoyle, it had been crucial in showing that Labour are “unrepentant about the illegitimate thwarting of the SNPs Opposition Day debate”. archive.is/K2K5u I doubt they will do it of course , but it would be great watching them do a Sinn Fein , and refuse to legitimise Westminster rule over scotland. Great idea.
This means that both Sinn Fein and the SNP will be ignored at Westminster.
Meanwhile, Humza Yousaf has declared that the next election will be a straight fight between the SNP and Labour for second place behind Labour.
No not a great idea. A brilliant idea and watch the stupid English really destroy the country. By the way as a subsidy junkie are you enjoying takinging back control and stopping the boats. As you are subsidised by the wealth of the Scots.
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