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Post by morayloon on Mar 23, 2024 16:09:19 GMT
Thanks for that. I find it strange they are allowed to claim expenses. The Inland Revenue would not let anyone claim expenses related to employment or self employment unless they did the job. Another double standard i guess. So to come back to the question then. If the SNP MP’s chose to withdraw from Westminster, having already sworn the oath and taken the seat, should they lose the salary ? My view is Dorries faced similar criticism for abandoning her constituents while still claiming the pay, and any SNP MP’s playing the same game should face similar criticism, and the recall petition system should be extended to allow constituents to call for tbe removal of such MP’s. Just because they are not attending Westminster doesn't mean Sinn Fein MPs aren't doing their job. They carry out important constituency matters and that is what they get expenses for. Their constituents seem happy enough with that. Westminster ignores the majority of Scottish MPs, the same would happen to Sinn Fein if their MPs did take up their seats. If the SNP choose to withdraw, its MPs would probably follow Sinn Fein's example and refuse to mouth the antiquated oath to the king. I think that if the SNP |
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Post by happyjack on Mar 23, 2024 20:07:27 GMT
You have not struck a raw nerve at all. I am not fussed either way about being Scottish never mind it being the source of my life’s obsession - but the plain fact is that a Scot is what I am, and a Scot is what I have told you that I am, yet despite that and with nothing else whatsoever to go on other than what I post on here, you refuse to accept that I am a Scot. As I said before, that can only be the result of your narrow, prejudiced and lumpen mind rendering you incapable of conceiving that someone who does not buy into your cringeworthy whingeing, grievance stirring and anti-English culture, and someone who does not blame the English for everything that ails them, could possibly be a Scot because, after all, you and your Indy obsessive buddies are Scots and that is what you all do and how you all behave, so that’s what makes you Scottish, isn’t it?. I haven’t jumped to the wrong conclusion over your views about the English and England; it is just that you are unable to recognise what you are. I have laid out examples of behaviours that you exhibit on here demonstrating that you routinely employ blatant lies and use serious distortions of the truth to reflect negatively upon the English, in so doing blaming them, without justification, for all that is wrong in your nationalist obsessed world. That clearly makes you anti-English and your pitiful list of excuses and sad attempt at justifying your shameful behaviour above just serves to illustrate that. As for calling me an “ultra Yoon” that is just to be expected from you and those like you. As I have explained to you many times, I have no ideological leanings one way or another on Scotland and the UK so I am neither a unionist nor a nationalist, but because I don’t come close to fitting your grievance mongering, English-resenting, freedom-fighting identikit of what you think it is to be a Scot, and because I have the audacity to believe that independence would be financially devastating for myself, my loved ones and for the Scottish people in general, you need to stick a dismissive label on me that computes with your twisted view of the world rather than confront your own prejudices. So what’s new about that? You may think that you have responded to my oft repeated question but you have certainly not come anywhere close to providing an answer. I am not surprised because I think that you are incapable of answering it for fear of having to concede that I am right and that you are wrong, just as much as you are incapable of acknowledging that GERS is credible, reliable and fully fit for purpose. Just to be clear, there is no mystery as to why “Scot Gov goes along with the sophistry and trickery, emanating from figures provided by Westminster for the dodgy documents” and no mystery why it goes along with GERS full stop. The reason that it does so is because there is no sophistry and trickery emanating from figures provided by Westminster and there are no dodgy documents and because it knows that GERS figures are reliable and that the GERS process is fit for purpose. The fact that you are unable to even contemplate the prospect that that might be the case is just another example of your anti-Englishness because you prefer to believe in conspiracies and skullduggery on a massive level rather than accept the possibility that the GERS report might be right and that Scotland’s fiscal situation (or Scotland’s anything else) really is propped up by England and the dastard English. Obviously have struck a raw nerve!!! Your first paragraph is just a shouty, sad, attempt at a put down. However, rather than having any truth, it merely shows your lack of knowledge of Scots, and Nationalists in particular. And that is what makes me doubt where you are from. You set yourself up as a "neutral" but your every utterance screams anti Scottish sentiment. Paragraph two merely continues the bluster. You say that you are "neither a Unionist nor a Nationalist" yet your continual put downs of anything, even slightly, pro-Nationalist, strongly suggests that a Yoon is what you are. How do you know what I believe a Scot is? I can tell you this, it is not "grievance mongering, English-resenting, freedom-fighting ... ". That description comes right out of the Yoon handbook. If you persist in using Yoon language, don't get on to me moaning that you aren't a Yoon: when we all know you are. Paragraph 3: I really don't care what you think of my response. You are incapable of accepting that figures for Reserved Issues come from Westminster & ONS. That much of those figures are manipulated to show Scotland in a bad light. Much of the Westminster figures are not kept at sub-UK level: they simply do not exist, they are pure guesses. We are not propped up by anyone as I, and others, have pointed out before. Finally, provide evidence of my supposed anti Englishness. Your previous attempt left much to be desired. I have already provided you with clear evidence of your actual anti-English bigotry and you simply reinforce it every time you post on here. Deny and deflect as much as you like but none of that will change what you are. Racists and bigots tend to deny that they are racists and bigots, never accepting that is what they are, trying instead to justify and rationalise their shameful behaviour and attitudes with flimsy, twisted and intelligence insulting logic, while incessantly employing blatant lies and using serious distortions of the truth in a manner which, either expressly or by thinly veiled implication, invariably reflects negatively upon whatever group of people it is that they happen to resent , in so doing blaming them, without justification, for all that is wrong in their sad and sorry world - so what’s new here? I have wasted enough time on you and your fellow anti-English bigots on here recently. It’s time to get back to engaging with some of the many decent people, both pro and anti independence, who are out there, and remind myself that the anti-English bigots amongst us are the exception and not the rule. |
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Post by morayloon on Mar 25, 2024 4:04:54 GMT
Obviously have struck a raw nerve!!! Your first paragraph is just a shouty, sad, attempt at a put down. However, rather than having any truth, it merely shows your lack of knowledge of Scots, and Nationalists in particular. And that is what makes me doubt where you are from. You set yourself up as a "neutral" but your every utterance screams anti Scottish sentiment. Paragraph two merely continues the bluster. You say that you are "neither a Unionist nor a Nationalist" yet your continual put downs of anything, even slightly, pro-Nationalist, strongly suggests that a Yoon is what you are. How do you know what I believe a Scot is? I can tell you this, it is not "grievance mongering, English-resenting, freedom-fighting ... ". That description comes right out of the Yoon handbook. If you persist in using Yoon language, don't get on to me moaning that you aren't a Yoon: when we all know you are. Paragraph 3: I really don't care what you think of my response. You are incapable of accepting that figures for Reserved Issues come from Westminster & ONS. That much of those figures are manipulated to show Scotland in a bad light. Much of the Westminster figures are not kept at sub-UK level: they simply do not exist, they are pure guesses. We are not propped up by anyone as I, and others, have pointed out before. Finally, provide evidence of my supposed anti Englishness. Your previous attempt left much to be desired. I have already provided you with clear evidence of your actual anti-English bigotry and you simply reinforce it every time you post on here. Deny and deflect as much as you like but none of that will change what you are. Racists and bigots tend to deny that they are racists and bigots, never accepting that is what they are, trying instead to justify and rationalise their shameful behaviour and attitudes with flimsy, twisted and intelligence insulting logic, while incessantly employing blatant lies and using serious distortions of the truth in a manner which, either expressly or by thinly veiled implication, invariably reflects negatively upon whatever group of people it is that they happen to resent , in so doing blaming them, without justification, for all that is wrong in their sad and sorry world - so what’s new here? I have wasted enough time on you and your fellow anti-English bigots on here recently. It’s time to get back to engaging with some of the many decent people, both pro and anti independence, who are out there, and remind myself that the anti-English bigots amongst us are the exception and not the rule. You've done no such thing. Thinking you have is not the same as actually doing it. As always you fling accusations about without providing any real evidence. When the going gets tough out come the slurs and name calling which makes me think you've lost it. I suggest that you make an appointment with your GP who might refer you to a psychiatrist? |
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Post by happyjack on Mar 25, 2024 11:49:00 GMT
You really do flatter yourself. The going never gets tough with you. Indeed, the going never really even gets going with you. It just gets boring and pointless after a while trying to engage with someone who is so consumed by bigotry and resentment that he is incapable of accepting facts as facts but, instead, in a Trumpian manner, believes in a fictitious and/or excessively contrived set of “alternative facts” designed to justify his resentment and to demonise the object of his bigotry.
Short of producing a statement in your name where you have said “I admit to being an anti-English bigot” no evidence of your bigotry is going to be enough for you - and even then, given your pitiful attempts at justifying your unjustifiable behaviours above, I wouldn’t be so sure even about that. Obviously no bigot is ever going to recognise what they are never mind admit to it, so we have to look at their actions and assess whether, through the nature, intensity and frequency of those actions, an individual exposes himself to be a bigot. And exposing yourself as a bigot is what you do and what you have done incessantly on here and on the old site, as the examples in my earlier post above illustrate. On that basis you are clearly an anti-English bigot whether you think so or not.
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Post by jaydee on Mar 26, 2024 9:31:19 GMT
No one is suggesting otherwise, if you choose a shower of loud mouthed morons to represent you that is your affair. My point was that your assertion that Scotland was degenerated in the HoC was incorrect, it is your SNPs not your country that are the subject of scorn and ridicule. I hope this clarifies my point. Mr Stupid at his stupid best. You did not have a point. You just ranted Jock hating shite, that has SFA to do with you or even cost you one penny. You worry about who you vote for. Now in terms of being degenerated. Look at how England degenerated into the laughing stock of the world after voting in Bojoke. Look at his action. Lying through his teeth at every turn. And billions wasted. Then had to be evicted from Number 10 like a spoiled brat. . That was followed by squatters. Lets start with Truss. A lettuce lasted longer than her. As the world looked on in amazement. After she decimated the economy by £45 billion in a few week. That cost the Scottish taxpayer.. . The lets look at the present wanker squatting in Number. 10. How he was going to clean up gutter politics. Then ended up as big a liar as Johnston. Ranting the drivel you spew. And totally out of his depth. The laughable bit of this non funny clown. Hen rants Stick with me and you will all be rich next week. Hope that clarifies your Jock hating pish. In short never discuss politics. Just spew hate. And I am still waiting on you to produce this evidence the former FM stole £600,000 pound. Also evidence please of how the incumbent FM gave money to Hamas so his family could get out of Gaza. |
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Post by om15 on Mar 26, 2024 10:48:29 GMT
That was quite good, after several years of political commentary you have managed to come up with something amusing and factual. I'll wait until 2037 and see if you can do it again.
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Post by borchester on Mar 27, 2024 15:22:59 GMT
You really do flatter yourself. The going never gets tough with you. Indeed, the going never really even gets going with you. It just gets boring and pointless after a while trying to engage with someone who is so consumed by bigotry and resentment that he is incapable of accepting facts as facts but, instead, in a Trumpian manner, believes in a fictitious and/or excessively contrived set of “alternative facts” designed to justify his resentment and to demonise the object of his bigotry. Short of producing a statement in your name where you have said “I admit to being an anti-English bigot” no evidence of your bigotry is going to be enough for you - and even then, given your pitiful attempts at justifying your unjustifiable behaviours above, I wouldn’t be so sure even about that. Obviously no bigot is ever going to recognise what they are never mind admit to it, so we have to look at their actions and assess whether, through the nature, intensity and frequency of those actions, an individual exposes himself to be a bigot. And exposing yourself as a bigot is what you do and what you have done incessantly on here and on the old site, as the examples in my earlier post above illustrate. On that basis you are clearly an anti-English bigot whether you think so or not. All this is true.
Moray is just a spiteful woman venting outrage because her female problems last all month and Jaydee is on day release from the Royal in Edinburgh. It is unlikely that they like even the Scots very much.
Still, they are all we have in these quiet times
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Post by morayloon on Mar 29, 2024 2:58:10 GMT
You really do flatter yourself. The going never gets tough with you. Indeed, the going never really even gets going with you. It just gets boring and pointless after a while trying to engage with someone who is so consumed by bigotry and resentment that he is incapable of accepting facts as facts but, instead, in a Trumpian manner, believes in a fictitious and/or excessively contrived set of “alternative facts” designed to justify his resentment and to demonise the object of his bigotry. Short of producing a statement in your name where you have said “I admit to being an anti-English bigot” no evidence of your bigotry is going to be enough for you - and even then, given your pitiful attempts at justifying your unjustifiable behaviours above, I wouldn’t be so sure even about that. Obviously no bigot is ever going to recognise what they are never mind admit to it, so we have to look at their actions and assess whether, through the nature, intensity and frequency of those actions, an individual exposes himself to be a bigot. And exposing yourself as a bigot is what you do and what you have done incessantly on here and on the old site, as the examples in my earlier post above illustrate. On that basis you are clearly an anti-English bigot whether you think so or not. I flatter myself? That diatribe just says it all! I wonder if you went over that post before you posted it? It smacks of total desperation. See your GP, he'll no doubt prescribe something to calm you down!!! BTW where and when did I say the bit you quoted? You'll have to provide the source and, if it is true, provide the full context in which it was said. |
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Post by happyjack on Mar 29, 2024 3:30:51 GMT
Yes, you flatter yourself.
What I describe above is what you do and what you are and, as I said, no bigot recognises what he is never mind admits to it. I have given you the evidence of your anti-Englishness that you asked for so I have nothing to add here.
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Post by morayloon on Apr 5, 2024 1:41:14 GMT
Yes, you flatter yourself. What I describe above is what you do and what you are and, as I said, no bigot recognises what he is never mind admits to it. I have given you the evidence of your anti-Englishness that you asked for so I have nothing to add here. Oh dearie me. Is that all you've got? Name calling? Without any proof to back up your ridiculous accusations? Your attempts at point scoring are getting ever more pitiful. Grow up!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2024 4:43:36 GMT
Yes, you flatter yourself. What I describe above is what you do and what you are and, as I said, no bigot recognises what he is never mind admits to it. I have given you the evidence of your anti-Englishness that you asked for so I have nothing to add here. The Scottish Nationalists follow the backward and retarded ideology of Anyone but England. This includes, but isn't limited to, Islamists and terrorists. There's nothing to discuss with them. |
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Post by happyjack on Apr 5, 2024 5:33:14 GMT
Yes, you flatter yourself. What I describe above is what you do and what you are and, as I said, no bigot recognises what he is never mind admits to it. I have given you the evidence of your anti-Englishness that you asked for so I have nothing to add here. Oh dearie me. Is that all you've got? Name calling? Without any proof to back up your ridiculous accusations? Your attempts at point scoring are getting ever more pitiful. Grow up!!! No, it is obviously not all that I have got because in the posts above I have given various examples of your behaviour and explained why those behaviours demonstrate what you are. There is no attempt, on my part at least, at point scoring. I am simply showing someone, who has asked various people at various times on here for proof that he is an anti-English bigot, the evidence of what he is. I don’t expect you to accept that you are anti-English anymore than I expect you to accept that all of those things that you have been telling yourself over the years to feed your Indy obsession are lies, twisted distortions and fake grievances, but that’s what you are and that’s what they are. |
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Post by Nemo on Apr 5, 2024 10:17:59 GMT
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