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Post by jaydee on Mar 21, 2024 10:12:55 GMT
You are ranting on about GERs and clearly do not have a clue how it works. You made that more than evident. And bankrupt England does not pay its way in the Uk. Its debt is 97% to GDP. That means matey for every £100 it spends it has to borrow £97. So stop ranting clueless garbage. And you are not agreeing GERs is not a set of accounts showing spending in Scotland. you are ranting utter shite to the contrary. The only figure you need to fit in your skull along with stupid Englishmen who rant the bollocks that you do. Is that under the Barnett consequentials Scotland receives a block grant.. it does not get a block grant, of its own money, on a calculation of the public spending required in bankrupt England. If that public expenditure exceeds what is required in bankrupt England. Say on the NHS. Then Scotland gets a further share of its own money under the Barnett consequential. It does not work the other way around.
I do not have the exact figures to hand. Or be arsed to look them up for you to dismiss with waffle and wave of a hand. . But it is near enough to suggest that UNDER PRESENT CONSTITIONAL ARRANGEMENTS Scotland contributed some £90 billion to the UK treasury. Try trebling that in reality. From that it received back some £41 billion of its own money. And from that it underspent. In terms of the Uk. Scotland cannot borrow. So it cannot create something it cannot do. In short the pish know as GERs showsd Scotland has a zero deficit. That debt is 100% Englsih and Scotland has no obligation to pay any of it. I am not suggesting Scotland may or may not be a power house. I am telling you it is. Now if you have figures to the contrary of what i gave on my last post. Put money where gob is. In terms of the Englsih debt. It is £2.9 trillion. Covid not included. Yes that really is £2,975,504,900,900 and rising at nearly £600 per second. Or put it another way that is nearly £48,000 per UK citizen. Thats me. Or to put it another way that is nearly £90,000 per UK tax payer. Thats me. And that from which the Scottish payers pays a £8.4% share of English debt, on that debt the Scots did not need or ask for. Or recieved one penny. And all this crap Scotland get bigger share than England. Is just that. Utter crap. So here is what I am asking you. If you disagree then correct what I have just posted. Go on be a devil and be a first. Then point out to me one benefit, one benefit will suffice. How economically Scotland would be better of being part of the UK. The clue. Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England and being screwed. I do have a clue about GERs and I do understand how it works. That is why all that I have said above is correct. You obviously don’t have a clue about GERS and you don’t understand how it works. You also clearly don’t have a clue about anything else that you have talked about. That is why you have posted the nonsense that you have above. it is clear to me that you are also incapable of ever understanding anything that you talk about above so I will just leave you to wallow in your confusion and your unjustified resentment. Your 1st paragraph. No matey you do not have a clue about GERs. That is what I said how it works above. Which part is wrong. Correct it. Your 2nd paragraph. There is how it works complete with figures. Which part is wrong. Correct Your 3rd paragraph. That is total BS, as bullshitters do. Meaning. you do not have a clue and totally incapable of correcting one word of what I have posted. |
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Post by happyjack on Mar 21, 2024 12:03:30 GMT
Ok, if you insist. Let’s look at what’s wrong with your post above i.e. your post dated 8.06 am on 20th March.
1st paragraph - all wrong.
2nd paragraph - all wrong.
3rd paragraph - all wrong.
Now imagine that you are staring at a blank screen with all that you say above wiped out.. That is the corrected version of your post.
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Post by jaydee on Mar 21, 2024 14:03:20 GMT
Ok, if you insist. Let’s look at what’s wrong with your post above i.e. your post dated 8.06 am on 20th March. 1st paragraph - all wrong. 2nd paragraph - all wrong. 3rd paragraph - all wrong. Now imagine that you are staring at a blank screen with all that you say above wiped out.. That is the corrected version of your post. OK.. 1st Paragraph - Correct OK ..2nd paragraph - Correct OK 3rd Paragraph - Correct So instead of being brilliant at statement making. How about not making a clown of yourself and correct all above. You have told me 3 times what I posted is or was wrong. When you stated to me it was wrong the first time. It translated to me. You were saying what I posted was wrong. Now if it is wrong. You must know the answer. Which part of correct what i posted. Translate to you. Do not correct what I posted. |
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Post by happyjack on Mar 21, 2024 14:48:11 GMT
I have corrected what you said. Lots of it is unintelligible, every last piece of what I could understand is nonsense, and most is not about GERS either, therefore there is no way to correct it other than to wipe it all out
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Post by jaydee on Mar 21, 2024 16:47:30 GMT
I have corrected what you said. Lots of it is unintelligible, every last piece of what I could understand is nonsense, and most is not about GERS either therefore there is no way to correct it other than to wipe it all out Here we go again. You have corrected nothing. Tell you what How about posting the link to what you corrected at the end of this. And just for you here is a copy and paste below in italics of what I said. Now is that just not nice of me.. You are ranting on about GERs and clearly do not have a clue how it works. You made that more than evident. And bankrupt England does not pay its way in the Uk. Its debt is 97% to GDP. That means matey for every £100 it spends it has to borrow £97. So stop ranting clueless garbage. And you are not agreeing GERs is not a set of accounts showing spending in Scotland. you are ranting utter shite to the contrary. The only figure you need to fit in your skull along with stupid Englishmen who rant the bollocks that you do. Is that under the Barnett consequentials Scotland receives a block grant.. it does not get a block grant, of its own money, on a calculation of the public spending required in bankrupt England. If that public expenditure exceeds what is required in bankrupt England. Say on the NHS. Then Scotland gets a further share of its own money under the Barnett consequential. It does not work the other way around.
I do not have the exact figures to hand. Or be arsed to look them up for you to dismiss with waffle and wave of a hand. . But it is near enough to suggest that UNDER PRESENT CONSTITIONAL ARRANGEMENTS Scotland contributed some £90 billion to the UK treasury. Try trebling that in reality. From that it received back some £41 billion of its own money. And from that it underspent. In terms of the Uk. Scotland cannot borrow. So it cannot create something it cannot do. In short the pish know as GERs showsd Scotland has a zero deficit. That debt is 100% Englsih and Scotland has no obligation to pay any of it. I am not suggesting Scotland may or may not be a power house. I am telling you it is. Now if you have figures to the contrary of what i gave on my last post. Put money where gob is.
In terms of the Englsih debt. It is £2.9 trillion. Covid not included. Yes that really is £2,975,504,900,900 and rising at nearly £6000 per second. Or put it another way that is nearly £48,000 per UK citizen. Thats me. Or to put it another way that is nearly £90,000 per UK tax payer. Thats me. And that from which the Scottish payers pays a £8.4% share of English debt, on that debt the Scots did not need or ask for. Or recieved one penny. And all this crap Scotland get bigger share than England. Is just that. Utter crap. So here is what I am asking you. If you disagree then correct what I have just posted. Go on be a devil and be a first. Then point out to me one benefit, one benefit will suffice. How economically Scotland would be better of being part of the UK. The clue. Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England and being screwed.So just state which part is wrong and tell me what your figures are. Which part is unintelligible. Which is bullshit for you do not understands. No good ranting you have corrected it. You have not. Which part is not about GERs. The part about the English debt calculates under GERs along with all public expenditure in England like the HSL to levelling up to the cost of pot holes in English roads. Everything. That is the public spending requirement in England. And from that under the Barnett formula the Scottish grant of its own money is calculated. So stop talking shite that most of it is not about GERs. You simply are clueless on how it works. Let me explain it again to you. The Barnett formula is a mechanism used by the Treasury in the United Kingdom to automatically adjust the amounts of public expenditure allocated to Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales to reflect changes in spending levels allocated to public services in England. It also dictates the Scottish Block grant. How nice. England telling the Scots how much of their own money they are going to get. As a percentage of what England needs.. If during a year. England requires more money. That is granted to England. From which Scotland gets a 8.4% share , of its own money under the consequentials. If Scotland for some reason needs more money. Tough shit. It is not reciprocal. You are just not going to admit you have corrected nothing and totally as you have now made very clear. Do not have a clue. By the way. I did make a mistake. I said the English debt was rising at £600 per second. That was totally wrong. I apologise for misleading you. It is £6,000 per second. |
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Post by happyjack on Mar 21, 2024 17:03:00 GMT
There is no point in me repeating what I have already said yet again. I have corrected your earlier post in the only remotely appropriate way.
If you want to engage with others and if you hope to encourage constructive feedback then you need to learn how to construct moderately competent posts and how to make cohesive arguments.
As I said above in a reply to Vinny about your posts “Even if I could unravel a strand of coherent and cohesive thought from the deluge of ill-informed gobbledegook that he insists on posting, it would take far too much time and energy to do that and to correct all of the errors in the building blocks of his thinking and understanding whilst doing so, particularly given that he is obviously incapable of engaging in a manner that would justify putting in even a fraction of that effort, so what would be the point?” That, I am sure, is how most on here feel most of the time about dealing with you.
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Post by jaydee on Mar 21, 2024 17:23:49 GMT
No point me repeating what I have already said yet again. I have corrected it in the only remotely appropriate way. If you want to engage with others and if you hope to encourage constructive feedback then you need to learn how to construct moderately competent posts. As I said above in a reply to Vinny about your posts “Even if I could unravel a strand of coherent and cohesive thought from the deluge of ill-informed gobbledegook that he insists on posting, it would take far too much time and energy to do that and to correct all of the errors in the building blocks of his thinking and understanding whilst doing so, particularly given that he is obviously incapable of engaging in a manner that would justify putting in even a fraction of that effort, so what would be the point?” That, I am sure, is how most on here feel most of the time about dealing with you. Your bullshit is beyond belief. One minute you are ranting you corrected what I said . The next the usual bullshit for wafflers not answering . it is unintelligible. You missed out on drugs and anti English. But I accept you do not have a clue what it means. That is why you cannot understand. . So how about you asking me what part you did not understand and I will try and explain it in big grown up writing. Or show it to a kid in primary school and he or she will explain it to you. |
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Post by happyjack on Mar 21, 2024 17:29:41 GMT
I have corrected what you said and my message has been consistent throughout. Your posts are a mess in all sorts of ways and are therefore not worth trying to wade through forlornly hoping to find some sort of meaning never mind attempting to respond to in any constructive way.
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Post by jaydee on Mar 21, 2024 17:43:30 GMT
I have corrected what you said and my message has been consistent throughout. Your posts are a mess in all sorts of ways and are therefore not worth trying to wade through forlornly hoping to find some sort of meaning never mind attempting to respond to in any constructive way. Well how about you posting a link to this brilliant correction you have made. Do you not understand that qustion as well. You are a clueless waffler. You have corrected nothing. Neither are you going to. So once again here is what I said in italics below. What or which part did you not understand. Or is asking you to point out which part did you not understand, So difficult for you to understand. I mean you ranted initially it was all wrong. So you must know how to correct what i said. Now you rant you do not understand what I posted. Which way do you want it. Who do you think you are trying to kid. You do not have a clue. You are ranting on about GERs and clearly do not have a clue how it works. You made that more than evident. And bankrupt England does not pay its way in the Uk. Its debt is 97% to GDP. That means matey for every £100 it spends it has to borrow £97. So stop ranting clueless garbage. And you are not agreeing GERs is not a set of accounts showing spending in Scotland. you are ranting utter shite to the contrary. The only figure you need to fit in your skull along with stupid Englishmen who rant the bollocks that you do. Is that under the Barnett consequentials Scotland receives a block grant.. it does not get a block grant, of its own money, on a calculation of the public spending required in bankrupt England. If that public expenditure exceeds what is required in bankrupt England. Say on the NHS. Then Scotland gets a further share of its own money under the Barnett consequential. It does not work the other way around.
I do not have the exact figures to hand. Or be arsed to look them up for you to dismiss with waffle and wave of a hand. . But it is near enough to suggest that UNDER PRESENT CONSTITIONAL ARRANGEMENTS Scotland contributed some £90 billion to the UK treasury. Try trebling that in reality. From that it received back some £41 billion of its own money. And from that it underspent. In terms of the Uk. Scotland cannot borrow. So it cannot create something it cannot do. In short the pish know as GERs showsd Scotland has a zero deficit. That debt is 100% Englsih and Scotland has no obligation to pay any of it. I am not suggesting Scotland may or may not be a power house. I am telling you it is. Now if you have figures to the contrary of what i gave on my last post. Put money where gob is.
In terms of the Englsih debt. It is £2.9 trillion. Covid not included. Yes that really is £2,975,504,900,900 and rising at nearly £600 per second. Or put it another way that is nearly £48,000 per UK citizen. Thats me. Or to put it another way that is nearly £90,000 per UK tax payer. Thats me. And that from which the Scottish payers pays a £8.4% share of English debt, on that debt the Scots did not need or ask for. Or recieved one penny. And all this crap Scotland get bigger share than England. Is just that. Utter crap. So here is what I am asking you. If you disagree then correct what I have just posted. Go on be a devil and be a first. Then point out to me one benefit, one benefit will suffice. How economically Scotland would be better of being part of the UK. The clue. Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England and being screwed. |
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Post by happyjack on Mar 21, 2024 17:45:01 GMT
As I said before, just imagine all that you posted wiped out leaving only a blank screen. That is my correction.
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Post by happyjack on Mar 21, 2024 17:46:29 GMT
Just imagine a blank screen. That is my correction.
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Post by jaydee on Mar 21, 2024 17:53:50 GMT
Just imagine a blank screen. That is my correction. Not only am I imagining a blank screen. I am imaging trying to get through to a blank brain. Who cannot even back up his bullshit. Just you imagine correcting what you ranted was wrong. Then fill that blank screen with your wonderful nonb existing facts and figures. Forums are full of wafflers. They just need pointing out. . |
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Post by happyjack on Mar 21, 2024 17:56:30 GMT
‘’ Not only am I imagining a blank screen “
Good. You got there at last. That’s my correction and that’s your answer.
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Post by om15 on Mar 21, 2024 18:01:08 GMT
That is exactly the sort of meaningless nonsense that Alex Salmon used to say, (except he could spell English). If you fondly imagine that an independent Scotland could borrow any money from anywhere if they do not accept their share of the debt you are on the wrong medication. The EU are very lukewarm about Scotland joining anyway, if you have defaulted on debts you will have no chance.
However it is all academic, the majority of Scots wish to remain in the UK, and it seems that the majority of Scots will be voting Labour in the next election. So your blustering speculation is just that.
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Post by happyjack on Mar 21, 2024 18:13:03 GMT
And, of course, GERS has nothing to do with identifying debt in the first place, never mind identifying who is responsible for it. This is just a small example of the many things he says that show that he knows very little and understands even less. If only he would realise that it might stop him polluting this forum with screeds of his bigotry, nonsense and gobbledegook.
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