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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 2, 2023 13:42:11 GMT
We didn't fair too bad as the World as a whole.. Then we distilled the list down to seven with strong lessons for the next pandemic. –57 New Zealand fared the best, teaching us that geographical advantages matter, but so does clear, consistent leadership. +962 Singapore showed that deciding when to end successful restrictions is never an obvious call. +1,495 Sweden proved that shoring up wealth, health and social infrastructure before an outbreak can significantly lower the human cost of pursuing a more relaxed strategy. +2,916 The UK made clear that a good vaccine rollout gives a lot of wiggle room for missteps. +3,704 In the US, the staggering toll is a reminder that all the wealth and vaccines in the world cannot save lives in a nation fractured by politics. +4,781 South Africa trusted wealthy nations to fulfill their vaccine promises — and paid dearly when they didn’t. +5,131 Mexico ended up with a struggling economy and a high death toll, showing that “lives vs. economy” was often a false choice. Maybe the biggest lesson of all: Every policy choice involves trade-offs. No one “wins” a pandemic.I think that Sweden did the best - it's not just numbers. NZ locked down very early - before it had high infection rates. But the whole country became like a prison and I don't think the inhabitants were very happy about this - especially those who were jailed for breaking the rules. The trouble was that they then faced the problem of how to reopen their borders. They had little herd immunity and while the so-called vaccine arrived very quickly (about 18 months) it didn't (and doesn't) prevent people catching the virus. We've all been very lucky that the virus mutated into a more benign strain. But there's no guarantee that there won't be a more aggressive strain round the corner. Then what do we do? This is the kind of thing that this enquiry should be looking at. Instead of looking at a lot of abusive emails. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 2, 2023 13:54:57 GMT
We didn't fair too bad as the World as a whole.. Then we distilled the list down to seven with strong lessons for the next pandemic. –57 New Zealand fared the best, teaching us that geographical advantages matter, but so does clear, consistent leadership. +962 Singapore showed that deciding when to end successful restrictions is never an obvious call. +1,495 Sweden proved that shoring up wealth, health and social infrastructure before an outbreak can significantly lower the human cost of pursuing a more relaxed strategy. +2,916 The UK made clear that a good vaccine rollout gives a lot of wiggle room for missteps. +3,704 In the US, the staggering toll is a reminder that all the wealth and vaccines in the world cannot save lives in a nation fractured by politics. +4,781 South Africa trusted wealthy nations to fulfill their vaccine promises — and paid dearly when they didn’t. +5,131 Mexico ended up with a struggling economy and a high death toll, showing that “lives vs. economy” was often a false choice. Maybe the biggest lesson of all: Every policy choice involves trade-offs. No one “wins” a pandemic.I think that Sweden did the best - it's not just numbers. NZ locked down very early - before it had high infection rates. But the whole country became like a prison and I don't think the inhabitants were very happy about this - especially those who were jailed for breaking the rules. The trouble was that they then faced the problem of how to reopen their borders. They had little herd immunity and while the so-called vaccine arrived very quickly (about 18 months) it didn't (and doesn't) prevent people catching the virus. We've all been very lucky that the virus mutated into a more benign strain. But there's no guarantee that there won't be a more aggressive strain round the corner. Then what do we do? This is the kind of thing that this enquiry should be looking at. Instead of looking at a lot of abusive emails.Exactly, instead of political point scoring, they should be looking at what went right, instead of making the whole focus on what went wrong.
Bitching about it now is useless , we know mistakes were made, but we also know some choices were the right ones, the next time round (if there is one) we should be better prepared.
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 2, 2023 15:22:19 GMT
Bitching about it now is useless , we know mistakes were made, but we also know some choices were the right ones, the next time round (if there is one) we should be better prepared. That tautology shows you missed the point. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 2, 2023 15:29:19 GMT
Bitching about it now is useless , we know mistakes were made, but we also know some choices were the right ones, the next time round (if there is one) we should be better prepared. That tautology shows you missed the point. What point? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 2, 2023 15:54:01 GMT
Bitching about it now is useless , we know mistakes were made, but we also know some choices were the right ones, the next time round (if there is one) we should be better prepared. That tautology shows you missed the point. The point YOU have missed this COVID inquiry is set top the TAX PAYERS £100million ...... YES £100million.
It's more waste of tax payers money, if you think it's justified wasting £100million on a COVID inquiry then you need your head examining.
**In August 2022, two months after its establishment, press reports suggested that £85m had already been spent on the Covid-19 Inquiry. Recent reports have suggested that number has now topped £100 million.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 2, 2023 16:29:10 GMT
What an utter waste of money.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 2, 2023 16:34:08 GMT
What an utter waste of money. It's obscene. |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 2, 2023 16:52:59 GMT
That tautology shows you missed the point. The point YOU have missed this COVID inquiry is set top the TAX PAYERS £100million ...... YES £100million.
It's more waste of tax payers money, if you think it's justified wasting £100million on a COVID inquiry then you need your head examining.
**In August 2022, two months after its establishment, press reports suggested that £85m had already been spent on the Covid-19 Inquiry. Recent reports have suggested that number has now topped £100 million.
Peanuts compared to the money the conservative government lost on useless PPE, Covid fraud,test and trace fiasco. As a tax payer I welcome this enquiry. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 2, 2023 17:00:29 GMT
The point YOU have missed this COVID inquiry is set top the TAX PAYERS £100million ...... YES £100million.
It's more waste of tax payers money, if you think it's justified wasting £100million on a COVID inquiry then you need your head examining.
**In August 2022, two months after its establishment, press reports suggested that £85m had already been spent on the Covid-19 Inquiry. Recent reports have suggested that number has now topped £100 million.
Peanuts compared to the money the conservative government lost on useless PPE, Covid fraud,test and trace fiasco. As a tax payer I welcome this enquiry. No surprise there then, we know lefties love wasting tax payers money, spending other peoples money is their forte. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 2, 2023 17:14:35 GMT
That tautology shows you missed the point. The point YOU have missed this COVID inquiry is set top the TAX PAYERS £100million ...... YES £100million.
It's more waste of tax payers money, if you think it's justified wasting £100million on a COVID inquiry then you need your head examining.
**In August 2022, two months after its establishment, press reports suggested that £85m had already been spent on the Covid-19 Inquiry. Recent reports have suggested that number has now topped £100 million.
It has nothing to do with covid. This is just the hypocrotical left who are still hurting after their defeat on brexit orchestrating the usual witch hunt. If starmer and co had of been in power we still be in lockdown now. So how much would that of cost the taxpayers? |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 2, 2023 17:16:56 GMT
The point YOU have missed this COVID inquiry is set top the TAX PAYERS £100million ...... YES £100million.
It's more waste of tax payers money, if you think it's justified wasting £100million on a COVID inquiry then you need your head examining.
**In August 2022, two months after its establishment, press reports suggested that £85m had already been spent on the Covid-19 Inquiry. Recent reports have suggested that number has now topped £100 million.
Peanuts compared to the money the conservative government lost on useless PPE, Covid fraud,test and trace fiasco. As a tax payer I welcome this enquiry. How much did we pay the Chinese because there was a global shortage of PPE only to find that the stuff they supplied was bloody useless. China did very well out of the pandemic which BTW eminated from there. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 2, 2023 17:19:49 GMT
Peanuts compared to the money the conservative government lost on useless PPE, Covid fraud,test and trace fiasco. As a tax payer I welcome this enquiry. No surprise there then, we know lefties love wasting tax payers money, spending other peoples money is their forte. They have got it off to a fine art mate. Talking of lefties and money have you read this?
Things have got £100MILLION better for Sir Tony Blair after his think tank reaps rewards of the City's bet that Labour will come to power
Accounts show that staff at the Blair think tank were paid £42million last year
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 2, 2023 17:25:03 GMT
The point YOU have missed this COVID inquiry is set top the TAX PAYERS £100million ...... YES £100million.
It's more waste of tax payers money, if you think it's justified wasting £100million on a COVID inquiry then you need your head examining.
**In August 2022, two months after its establishment, press reports suggested that £85m had already been spent on the Covid-19 Inquiry. Recent reports have suggested that number has now topped £100 million.
It has nothing to do with covid. This is just the hypocrotical left who are still hurting after their defeat on brexit orchestrating the usual witch hunt. If starmer and co had of been in power we still be in lockdown now. So how much would that of cost the taxpayers?It doesn't bear thinking about, we'd be bankrupt, we'd be on our knees, if Starmer/Labour do get in, we best all hope another pandemic doesn't come along, because this country will be completely finished... finito. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 2, 2023 17:29:20 GMT
No surprise there then, we know lefties love wasting tax payers money, spending other peoples money is their forte. They have got it off to a fine art mate. Talking of lefties and money have you read this?
Things have got £100MILLION better for Sir Tony Blair after his think tank reaps rewards of the City's bet that Labour will come to power
Accounts show that staff at the Blair think tank were paid £42million last year
That war criminal should be locked up, along with his lefty human rights QC Mrs, the pair of them are utterly repulsive, they've got no moral or principles, it's all about money for them, and plenty of it. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 2, 2023 17:34:32 GMT
Peanuts compared to the money the conservative government lost on useless PPE, Covid fraud,test and trace fiasco. As a tax payer I welcome this enquiry. How much did we pay the Chinese because there was a global shortage of PPE only to find that the stuff they supplied was bloody useless. China did very well out of the pandemic which BTW eminated from there. No, China has fallen off a cliff. One of the contributory factors in our high inflation. |
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