Octopus energy giving free electricity

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This is a good read. 

Sky News. 
It's now cheaper to produce energy from wind than gas. As the government announces its energy security strategy, how might speeding up the change to net zero save us all money? And what's holding us back?


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Daniel Dunford


Energy from new onshore wind-farms is less than half the price of energy from gas stations that are already built and running. With offshore wind it's less than two-thirds of the price, according to researchers at BloombergNEF.



The researchers expect the price of gas to drop slightly next year, so it will be a similar cost to offshore wind again, before rising again through the rest of the decade while wind continues to fall. Gas will remain more expensive than onshore wind throughout.

They have to pay your fixed costs to get any electricity from you at any time at any price. Renewable are mostly fixed costs

I can see where this might lead.
Octopus Energy will go into liquidation having gained a lot of new customers under false pretences. The company's customers will all be transferred to a sensible company who will take on the direct debits but none of the debts.
The debts will be paid by the "government" which means the taxpayer will have been paying for any free electricity provided.
It won't be the first time, of course.

But I'm not. I couldn't care if you want it or not. I'm trying to explain the differences between getting energy from something you have to pay for against something that's free. 

Thanks Jonsky. I'll investigate further. I did some work with citizen advice some years back where banks were doing something similar to what you describe. Offering people credit assistance in return for a membership with a cost of £35.00. Most people took the offer as the alternative was accounts closed and summons. 
CAB got it stopped as its extortion. 

I think the confusion was my start point of free electricity. It was a bid to be clear that's not working. 
So, the build and maintenance costs are pretty much the same whether the wind farm provides electricity during the day or both day and night. If you've covered your costs selling power during the day, then effectively anything you sell at night is cost free.

Before I continue, do you get this and agree? 

No Zany it isn't free and never will be. Even if I don't take your share of the subsidies into consideration.