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Post by bancroft on May 19, 2023 10:43:55 GMT
It might be simpler to cut the cable to Nigeria. Much more complicated than that, even Israel has been criticised in the past. With phones tends to be India. |
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Post by zanygame on May 19, 2023 20:26:44 GMT
Its also academic. There is no way of stopping the fraud by knowing someone's background. Unless you are considering some sort of collective attack on every one that matches your pattern recognition. As a successful businessman you will surely be aware of the value of risk management. Naturally, but unless I DBS check every contact I can't even find out if they have a criminal record. |
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Post by zanygame on May 19, 2023 20:29:55 GMT
Well I've made my suggestion, where's yours. I suggested we cut the cable to Nigeria Oh Ok, I thought that was a flippant remark, didn't realise you thought that was a serious solution. |
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Post by colbops on May 19, 2023 21:09:08 GMT
Well I've made my suggestion, where's yours. Education. Start young - Teach 4 year olds safe Internet. Encourage use of protection when having internet. Teach children how to explore their internet safely. Hand out free VPNs to 16 year olds. If it needs to be done on the cheap just use all the WHO guidance material and change every reference to sex to internet. |
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Post by zanygame on May 20, 2023 6:58:23 GMT
Well I've made my suggestion, where's yours. Education. Start young - Teach 4 year olds safe Internet. Encourage use of protection when having internet. Teach children how to explore their internet safely. Hand out free VPNs to 16 year olds. If it needs to be done on the cheap just use all the WHO guidance material and change every reference to sex to internet. I don't think this works for the current sufferers of fraud. And would have no effect on current fraud for atleast 10 years if not more. Further, I would say the fraudsters are always one step ahead, the frauds you are warned about today are yesterdays news for the fraudsters. By the time you are warned not to click on links in emails, the fraudsters have already built those links into the image that downloaded with the next emails you get. Why do we think it was necessary to have the financial markets register? why do we check they are signed up to the FCA before we deal with them? Its because before this it was impossible to avoid the endless fraudsters stealing our money and no amount of education could outsmart them. |
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Post by Orac on May 20, 2023 8:22:08 GMT
I suggested we cut the cable to Nigeria Oh Ok, I thought that was a flippant remark, didn't realise you thought that was a serious solution. I think it's an over-reaction - but it has the benefit of substantially solving the problem and leaving our liberties intact. Perhaps there is the seed of something workable there in that a lot of the fraud comes from known geographical locations. I doubt you will find this sort of approach suitable though. You seem to want any restriction or inconvenience to apply to uk citizens Your proposal would do very little to reduce internet fraud, most of which is conducted by foreigners from abroad. |
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Post by bancroft on May 20, 2023 13:01:40 GMT
The best advice is to be wary of free gifts and unsolicited advice.
Oh and sob stories from people you do not personally know.
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Post by zanygame on May 20, 2023 13:17:22 GMT
Oh Ok, I thought that was a flippant remark, didn't realise you thought that was a serious solution. I think it's an over-reaction - but it has the benefit of substantially solving the problem and leaving our liberties intact. Perhaps there is the seed of something workable there in that a lot of the fraud comes from known geographical locations. I doubt you will find this sort of approach suitable though. You seem to want any restriction or inconvenience to apply to uk citizens Your proposal would do very little to reduce internet fraud, most of which is conducted by foreigners from abroad. You are talking about phone fraud. The internet is not so easily disconnected. I thought you were raising this point (a lot of the fraud comes from known geographical locations.) which was a valid one, but our solution was frivolous. |
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Post by zanygame on May 20, 2023 13:20:07 GMT
The best advice is to be wary of free gifts and unsolicited advice. Oh and sob stories from people you do not personally know. And people claiming they are delivery companies or your bank or a debt collector for your utility company or... or... or... And there lies the problem, those who haven't been scammed think that just vigilance will save them. Those who have been scammed are so embarrassed that they were caught. Neither case is true. |
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Post by Orac on May 20, 2023 14:35:13 GMT
I think it's an over-reaction - but it has the benefit of substantially solving the problem and leaving our liberties intact. Perhaps there is the seed of something workable there in that a lot of the fraud comes from known geographical locations. I doubt you will find this sort of approach suitable though. You seem to want any restriction or inconvenience to apply to uk citizens Your proposal would do very little to reduce internet fraud, most of which is conducted by foreigners from abroad. You are talking about phone fraud. The internet is not so easily disconnected. I thought you were raising this point (a lot of the fraud comes from known geographical locations.) which was a valid one, but our solution was frivolous. Round in circles - both of our suggestions are impractical and (yours especially) ineffective, but mine has the advantage that it doesn't also represent a giant threat to civil liberties. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 14:42:33 GMT
You are talking about phone fraud. The internet is not so easily disconnected. I thought you were raising this point (a lot of the fraud comes from known geographical locations.) which was a valid one, but our solution was frivolous. Round in circles - both of our suggestions are impractical and (yours especially) ineffective, but mine has the advantage that it doesn't also represent a giant threat to civil liberties. There's always an ulterior motive with certain people.
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Post by zanygame on May 20, 2023 14:55:43 GMT
You are talking about phone fraud. The internet is not so easily disconnected. I thought you were raising this point (a lot of the fraud comes from known geographical locations.) which was a valid one, but our solution was frivolous. Round in circles - both of our suggestions are impractical and (yours especially) ineffective, but mine has the advantage that it doesn't also represent a giant threat to civil liberties. Please explain how mine is ineffective? |
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Post by Toreador on May 25, 2023 21:23:35 GMT
Too many people do not report strange phone calls or emails, too many people don't even know how, some even respond to both. Yesterday I reported an email from someone I didn't recognise talking about something I didn't understand.
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