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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 16:52:12 GMT
Much of the commentary I recall hearing from the Leave faction was to do with how unfair it was that Polish potato pickers could just waltz in while Indian computer scientists with PhDs had to jump through all sorts of hoops. A 'level playing field' was what was called for as I recall, not a moratorium on all immigration as used to be party policy before Nige took over the reins. Come to think of it, if it weren't for the boats I don't believe we'd ever hear a peep from him and his current team. What’s wrong with that?( bolded). Leaving the EU was supposed to lead to control of our borders . We couldn’t while we were in the EU. Polish potato pickers were more of a problem with most people who voted to leave than Indian computer scientists..hence the vote to leave l |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 16:47:48 GMT
If you thing that the petition is ‘ probably just therapeutic’ lol If it goes past total number of Labour votes at the last election it will be a landslide victory for the public. At a guess, I doubt a couple of million is particularly bothering them but if it gets anywhere near 10 million then the knives will be out. Nah. Thats just doofus scanning my posts to find an occasional typo and celebrating. Meanwhile he usually still can’t string a coherent sentence together . |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 16:44:58 GMT
It would appear so — or cheaper than is currently available in the UK — France derives around 70% of its electricity from nuclear power, and the US has the world's largest nuclear energy capacity, totaling 102 GW across 94 reactors.
Both countries are cited on here as having cheaper energy than the UK.
France has announced plans to build six new reactors and will consider building a further eight...
Let’s build some more then . 👍 |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 16:34:44 GMT
Met Police claimed imam’s sermon saying ‘destroy Jewish homes’ is not a crimeA preacher at an east London mosque called for Jewish homes to be destroyed He said: “Oh Allah, curse the Jews and the children of Israel. Oh Allah, curse the infidels and the polytheists. “Oh Allah, break their words, shake their feet, disperse and tear apart their unity and ruin their houses and destroy their homes.”The Met concluded that “it does not meet the threshold of a crime.” But after outrage on X the force said it would urgently review its decision. It wrote: “We recognise the significant concerns around our decision and we will review this outcome urgently.” After reviewing the case, the Met said it had passed a file to the CPS in October. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/21/met-police-claimed-imams-sermon-saying-destroy-jewish-homes/I wonder what the reaction from the Met would be if someone called for the destruction of Muslim homes?.. Who are the Met going to arrest if Allah answers the call?
Even some insurance policies exclude coverage for Acts of God...
If a Christian posted the equivalent on Facebook . The Met wouldn’t be looking for God to prosecute. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 16:32:52 GMT
If you thing that the petition is ‘ probably just therapeutic’ then you are saying that’s its insignificant no matter how many people sign it . So you think petitions in general are insignificant? I suspect that you are belittling a very significant expression of dissatisfaction of the government because you dont dare accept it . If you thing that the petition is ‘ probably just therapeutic’ lol Of you edited your own posts as much as you studied mine ,doofus , you would be creating readable posts instead of semi literate waffle . |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 16:29:35 GMT
But during the period in question, between Eastern Europeans first appearing in 2004 and the census in 2011, there were still many more non-EU arrivals than free-movement arrivals from the EU. I don't recall any angst about that on the part of the Leave faction. That’s probably because you wasn’t looking ,the subject never came up or the leave campaign were aware that to mention it would cause a cacophony of screams shouting ‘ white racists”. The East Europeans came in through our membership of the EU. Afaik our membership of the EU was not the cause of non EU immigration. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 16:21:50 GMT
Big business starting to lose patience with Labour.  This budget really is taking the biscuit. It’s crackers. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 16:19:52 GMT
Which is why the UK enjoys the most expensive electricity in the world. That's the result of 50 years of under investment in nuclear... Nuclear energy is cheap? |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 16:18:22 GMT
Unborn babies and old people .
The former is a legal genocide and the latter is a future one.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 13:20:54 GMT
It’s the 3rd world blame and compo hand out culture .
It seems to have seeped into UK society.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 13:18:17 GMT
If you thing that the petition is ‘ probably just therapeutic’ then you are saying that’s its insignificant no matter how many people sign it . So you think petitions in general are insignificant? I suspect that you are belittling a very significant expression of dissatisfaction of the government because you dont dare accept it . I'm saying that sometimes (not in general) collecting views in petitions probably just therapeutic. Wouldn't it be more effective in the current case to mobilise around local and by-elections to get the point across?
I can't stop your suspicions...
Those views may be reflected in local and by elections but the petition has been very effective. Effective enough to gain 2.5 million signatures ( and counting ) and effective enough to be belittled and accused of being a Russian bot exercise by labour supporters. I know you can’t. They are well founded. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 12:56:57 GMT
It’s not an act we need to clean up. We don’t need a ‘ good boy’ badge or be ashamed in any way for being pioneers of industrialisation. Disagree the first point — although admittedly the UK is ahead of many.
Agree your second point. But there's nothing wrong in the UK demonstrating (and benefiting from and marketing) how it is able to devise cleaner, greener processes and technologies...
Why should we clean up the act of being industrialisation pioneers ? There is nothing wrong in the UK introducing green energy at a pace that suits the UK and not a headlong rush . Benefitting from is debatable and marketing is nonsense . We don’t make the product , China does . China is one of the world’s highest CO2 producers . |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 12:47:58 GMT
Well it has been pointed out that a petition cannot force another general election so you seem to be pointing out the obvious. The petition is just as relevant as pro EU surveys and demonstrations. 2.5 million people is a significant expression of dissatisfaction…and its growing . If 2.5 million peoples views are insignificant then we can dismiss any views from any group less than 2.5 million right? Maybe 3.5 million tomorrow 😉 I've never claimed that "2.5 million peoples views are insignificant". At appropriate times even tens of votes could change events. But at other times, collecting views in petitions is probably just therapuetic... If you thing that the petition is ‘ probably just therapeutic’ then you are saying that’s its insignificant no matter how many people sign it . So you think petitions in general are insignificant? I suspect that you are belittling a very significant expression of dissatisfaction of the government because you dont dare accept it . |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 12:31:31 GMT
So what is the point of the UK (who only produces less than 1% of global CO2) going all out for this renewable energy to cut our emissions? After all if they are going to blow in from across the Channel anyway what is the point? I think you might finally be cottoning on to the basic problem with the dash to Net Zero. I reckon it's a good selling point for both the idea of and production of green technology if the first country to industrialise is now able to be one of the leaders in cleaning up its act... It’s not an act we need to clean up. We don’t need a ‘ good boy’ badge or be ashamed in any way for being pioneers of industrialisation. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 26, 2024 12:24:24 GMT
What percentage would be relevant? By itself, none.
The only votes that count for or against political parties in the UK are those that are cast at elections.
Governments survive while they have the confidence of parliament.
A recent (2016?) petition that wanted a change in the law so that UK citizens can force an immediate General Election got less than 15,000 signatures...
Well it has been pointed out that a petition cannot force another general election so you seem to be pointing out the obvious. The petition is just as relevant as pro EU surveys and demonstrations. 2.5 million people is a significant expression of dissatisfaction…and its growing . If 2.5 million peoples views are insignificant then we can dismiss any views from any group less than 2.5 million right? Maybe 3.5 million tomorrow 😉 |
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