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Post by Bentley on Oct 12, 2024 10:14:50 GMT
The 'adversarial system' is the way you avoid having a dictatorship an explicitly non adversarial system just means you are not allowed to argue - ie a dictatorship Which was exactly my point.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 12, 2024 10:14:15 GMT
Girls dress quite smartly in UK offices l. I doubt that they need or want to dress as if they going out clubbing. I don’t see how it would make them any happier either. They fed the robots in one of the videos . They didn’t seem any happier than UK workers . It was very clear to me there was no dress code in that office. It's just something that surprised me and that is why I mentioned it. I was like you and thought the same until actually watching it. It's just another thing you learn if you look in places which are not contrived News.
I've also checked Alibaba's offices. They have a giant mural on the wall in the style of the Bayeux Tapestry with cartoon figures of all the famous tech entrepreneurs, like jobs, Gates etc. Those are very strange offices indeed because they are run by Jack Ma (very strange man).
In that office . That doesn’t it is the norm in China and/ or that it wasn’t set up. It doesn't mean that wearing inappropriate clothing ie clothes more appropriate for ‘ clubbing ‘ indicates that the workers are happier than in the UK. I would say that more casual attire might be more of an indication. I worked in a factory that had a large fishpond and an old printing press in the reception. It wasn’t any happier working there than anywhere else.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 12, 2024 7:24:33 GMT
You do realise that you are saying Chinese factories not only do not supply appropriate safety wear but encourage workers not to wear it . Thats not a good thing . If China employs efficient workers then they must be working hard in a factory environment. So why are they dress like they are going clubbing and and not wearing protective clothing? If you are saying that this is an eastern thing then you are wrong . The Japanese encourage safety wear . You have been watching videos that are staged imo. Just as you seem to be confusing offices with factory floors and not providing any evidence of Chinese factory workers laughing more than UK factory workers . Only tattle and a few opinions on both sides . It's true they have lower safety standards. They don't dress like that in factories. I was saying in this office they did. It was a large office with some 30 or so desks and looked like a nice building. Yes of course they would wear protection if they were welding or some other hazadous job, but factory work is much less effort now the automation is in place. They may be watching over the machines, feeding stuff in, sometimes some hand assembly. Girls dress quite smartly in UK offices l. I doubt that they need or want to dress as if they going out clubbing. I don’t see how it would make them any happier either. They fed the robots in one of the videos . They didn’t seem any happier than UK workers .
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 20:51:39 GMT
I think it was staged. Factory workers usually wear appropriate protective wear. They never look like they are going clubbing . Still no evidence that Chinese workers laugh more than UK ones . No it wasn't. Companies are not hiding anything and like to be open for all to see. I've seen one CCTV even of the London Metal Exchange where Farage worked. It was a totally different vibe. The old Brits with their stiff upper lip and appearances. Anyway, I like their approach. They are calm and reasonable. A lot of people who work for UK firms say there is a lot of bad vibes in the offices and bitching going on. The Eastern thing is very mellow, but you are expected to be smart. I've watched quite a lot of factory videos over that way, and also in Korea and Japan. They are interesting. We Brits could learn a thing or two about their techniques. You do realise that you are saying Chinese factories not only do not supply appropriate safety wear but encourage workers not to wear it . Thats not a good thing . If China employs efficient workers then they must be working hard in a factory environment. So why are they dress like they are going clubbing and and not wearing protective clothing? If you are saying that this is an eastern thing then you are wrong . The Japanese encourage safety wear . You have been watching videos that are staged imo. Just as you seem to be confusing offices with factory floors and not providing any evidence of Chinese factory workers laughing more than UK factory workers . Only tattle and a few opinions on both sides .
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 20:15:38 GMT
You’ve seen videos that could be staged . I still haven’t seen evidence Chinese workers laugh more than UK workers . Well I find all sorts of strange things in my research. You can get Chinese internet as well if you search in Chinese characters. That in itself opens up a whole new world of web pages. One was a live CCTV in the offices of a Shenzhen tech firm. I watched them for a while to see what was what in an entirely unedited way. Sure I'm aware stuff can be edited and that is why I do this cross-checking with other independent sources. I often look at details, like say if there is a shelf of books I might freeze frame and read all the titles. I look for the incidental clues. You have to these days since there are so many bullshitters in the media.
Anyway, what I picked up from that was the firm seemed really cool about what you could wear to work. Some of those girls looked more like they were out clubbing. It's the entire opposite though when they are at a trade fair and representing the product to the punters with the money. There they will dress impeccably. The thing is the general rule of thumb is we don't care how you work as long as you do the work and it is done to a good standard. They think, who cares what banter goes on in the factory as long as the goods come out looking great. I think it was staged. Factory workers usually wear appropriate protective wear. They never look like they are going clubbing . Still no evidence that Chinese workers laugh more than UK ones .
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 19:02:54 GMT
They are relaxed because China is a centralised and controlled society . They are relaxed because independent Labour organisations are not allowed to exist . There is no fighting because the government would not allow the fight ..not necessarily because the Chinas workers have a perfect life . There is no evidence that Chinese workers laugh any more than UK workers do when they work . Note robots in Czech Republic youtu.be/Yf13rlQLxwI?si=mcNdLL2NsDAdtauMDubai youtu.be/u3uqokmIk9E?si=lZuUF5lcY_CA-TZWI've seen what goes on in these places and chatted to them as well. You get a lot of yong girls working in the offices and they are really frendly. The guys work in the factories and that is pretty good work as well. They don't even mind you smoking whilst working on the machines. You can find out from others who have worked there. Linkedin often has reports on what various Chinese firms are like to work for. You’ve seen videos that could be staged . I still haven’t seen evidence Chinese workers laugh more than UK workers .
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 18:26:28 GMT
Pillocks .
“ Announcing moves to end fire and rehire in the employment rights bill for workers this week, Rayner said the actions of P&O Ferries was “outrageous” and “exactly why we’re taking bold action”.
In interviews on Wednesday, Haigh said she had boycotted P&O Ferries and told the Department for Transport to have no dealings with either the ferry firm or its owning group.
Haigh said on Wednesday: “I’ve instructed my department to have absolutely no contact with P&O Ferries or DP World unless it is literally on safety grounds. The department is not to have anything to do with them, and certainly not engaging with them.”
She added: “We are a government that wants to work in partnership with business and the workforce, but not with rogue operators.”
Guardian.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 18:13:52 GMT
That’s not right . They are not allowed collective bargaining so it doesn’t matter if they need it or not ..it doesn’t exist . That’s because China is a centralised and controlled society . Medieval society was highly centralised and controlled. There was no need of craft unions because they would never have been allowed. Its only when society adopted capitalism that unions began to develop. So it follows that China is closer to the controlled medieval society that claims to be working for the common good . You contradict yourself when you say “They have a purer form of the free market where market regualtion alone is sufficient.” How can a regulated market be a purer firm of ‘ free’ market . The truth is that Chinese workers either like it or lump it . There is no independent Labour organisations to support them . They all support each other because they don't operate in advasorial mode. There is no need to fight when no one is fighting you. The employer does not try and make the workers work for as little as possible. They are trying to attract good workers and try and do all they can to make the working enviroment comfortable and enjoyable. You get a different atmosphere in a Chinese office. They are far more relaxed. They have a laugh as they do their work. It's not at all what you reason it to be. Maybe that system they have would not work in Britain, but it works very well over there in their culture, as was my realisation. They are relaxed because China is a centralised and controlled society . They are relaxed because independent Labour organisations are not allowed to exist . There is no fighting because the government would not allow the fight ..not necessarily because the Chinas workers have a perfect life . There is no evidence that Chinese workers laugh any more than UK workers do when they work . Note robots in Czech Republic youtu.be/Yf13rlQLxwI?si=mcNdLL2NsDAdtauMDubai youtu.be/u3uqokmIk9E?si=lZuUF5lcY_CA-TZW
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 17:59:46 GMT
Labour talks down the UK then loses £1 billion of investment . We are being run by a bunch of indoctrinated 6 th formers.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 17:53:07 GMT
They already are doofus.... what by winning a couple of local election seats lol Yes. They are a small party and any seats won are important.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 15:13:28 GMT
You can almost smell the desperation from Labour here ^. Badenoch will slaughter Starmer in PMQs and will be the first Tory leader since Thatcher to actually be conservative. If she is, is that the end of the need for Reform UK? I don’t know but that would be her goal imo. There would be some overlap but Badenoch might win over enough conservatives overwhelm Reform . She will have to .
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 14:36:47 GMT
Well you made a pretty good stab at a generalised condemnation of an ethnic group or two. The back pedal in the last sentence didn’t hide it well. No back pedaling what so ever A person who is either Homophobic or has unacceptable views on women does not hold those views because of their nationality, ethnicity or colour, they hold those views because of a cultural problem. The Christian Church in much of Africa is either fairly hostile or extremely hostile to LGBT people, but more especially towards gay men, possibly the best example would be Uganda. I have nothing against Ugandans because they are Ugandan, or because they are Christian, or because they are black, but I have an issue with anyone who holds such views - know the difference. Then why mention Nigerians and Pakistanis? More backpedaling .
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 14:16:27 GMT
Come on Witchy . Call her a coconut . You know you want to 😁
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 14:13:05 GMT
The bloke who jumped over the counter and punched him in the back of the head wasn’t thinking too much about the safety of the woman in front of the gun . lol.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 11, 2024 13:54:28 GMT
Lefties will be adding black Nigerians to the ethnic race baiting list soon . So far it’s been a list of one ..White people. We might find Asians are added if we get enough Asian politicians that reject woke and question high immigration.
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