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Post by Bentley on Aug 12, 2024 19:30:03 GMT
India is the worlds largest democracy... ... OK, I'll get me coat. Great idea My mouth feels like his flip flops when I get a hangover.
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 13, 2024 7:47:43 GMT
I think you'll find a lot of people say that. Heck, on this very forum you have at least one poster saying British-born ethnic minorities shouldn't be allowed to hold public office. You really think people like that want legal migrants treated the same as British people?? Except I did a search and that’s not quite what he said is it? Lets face it the worlds largest democracy doesn’t allow you to run for president unless you are US born. That's exactly what he said.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 13, 2024 10:11:37 GMT
Except I did a search and that’s not quite what he said is it? Lets face it the worlds largest democracy doesn’t allow you to run for president unless you are US born. That's exactly what he said. Like I said not quite and not without reason and why our royal family changed its name to Windsor which despite all that saw German relatives even committed nazi looked after in the immediate aftermath of WW2. I don’t see anything wrong in questioning whether a person may be subjected to divided loyalties rather than the best interests of this country alone,questioning that commitment is not racist.
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Post by see2 on Aug 13, 2024 10:42:20 GMT
For social housing. Rayner has said that immigrants, illegal or not have equal claim. They have not paid a penny into the system, and if they are old, cannot speak, or refuse to, will not pay anything. Meanwhile, those that have worked for a pittance, struggled to bring up families, etc, get overlooked. This is Red Britain today. Surely Labour have signed their resignation from goverrnment over and over. There is a huge vacuum, a big chance for Reform to fill the void. Labour are a pox. This is why Starmers authoritarian government are comming down hard on demonstrators, they know damned well there's likely to be much more trouble and civil disorder ahead. Any excuse will do for Righties to denigrate Labour. Denigration is one of their 'trade marks'.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 13, 2024 11:23:08 GMT
This is why Starmers authoritarian government are comming down hard on demonstrators, they know damned well there's likely to be much more trouble and civil disorder ahead. Any excuse will do for Righties to denigrate Labour. Denigration is one of their 'trade marks'. 'Righties' don't have to denigrate Labour, Starmer and his 'top team' (LOL) are doing very nicely without help from righties. By the way, are you aware that since comrade Starmer marched into number 10, no fewar than 5000 illegals have crossed the channel and in spite of 270,000 homeless people in this country, the illegals will be fast tracked to the front of the housing queue. Smash the gangs my arse.
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 13, 2024 12:38:20 GMT
That's exactly what he said. Like I said not quite and not without reason and why our royal family changed its name to Windsor which despite all that saw German relatives even committed nazi looked after in the immediate aftermath of WW2. I don’t see anything wrong in questioning whether a person may be subjected to divided loyalties rather than the best interests of this country alone,questioning that commitment is not racist. Sorry, this is a direct quote from him "ethnic minorities should not be allowed anywhere near high office" Dogburger Legend ***** Posts: 1,324 Jun 8, 2024 at 7:52pm QuotelikePost OptionsPost by Dogburger on Jun 8, 2024 at 7:52pm The correct term (Ive got two minutes while the adverts are on ) is British Indian .A person whos ANCESTRAL roots are in India .British Indians are the largest ETHNIC population in the UK . So though his passport may say he is British he is an ethnic and therefore has/could have /has been proved to have loyalties to his ancestral roots that may/does /could result in a conflict of interests with any position he takes on where said conflicts affect his judgement in the interests of the UK . For that reason Ethnic minorities should not be allowed anywhere near high office
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Post by Vinny on Aug 13, 2024 12:43:39 GMT
For social housing. Rayner has said that immigrants, illegal or not have equal claim. They have not paid a penny into the system, and if they are old, cannot speak, or refuse to, will not pay anything. Meanwhile, those that have worked for a pittance, struggled to bring up families, etc, get overlooked. This is Red Britain today. Surely Labour have signed their resignation from goverrnment over and over. There is a huge vacuum, a big chance for Reform to fill the void. Labour are a pox. What about immigrants who work for a pittance and struggle to brin up a family versus an English person who hasn't paid a penny into the system? Why should we allow a situation of slavery? Unless economic migrants have a well paid job to go to, money in the bank in case they lose it, and decent skills they would fail, wouldn't they? So why encourage a disaster to happen? Manage migration in such a way that it can't. We don't have limitless money. We don't have limitless room. Economic migration should therefore be for those with a well paid job, money in the bank, skills and no dangerous criminal record.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 13, 2024 13:27:35 GMT
Like I said not quite and not without reason and why our royal family changed its name to Windsor which despite all that saw German relatives even committed nazi looked after in the immediate aftermath of WW2. I don’t see anything wrong in questioning whether a person may be subjected to divided loyalties rather than the best interests of this country alone,questioning that commitment is not racist. Sorry, this is a direct quote from him "ethnic minorities should not be allowed anywhere near high office" Dogburger Legend ***** Posts: 1,324 Jun 8, 2024 at 7:52pm QuotelikePost OptionsPost by Dogburger on Jun 8, 2024 at 7:52pm The correct term (Ive got two minutes while the adverts are on ) is British Indian .A person whos ANCESTRAL roots are in India .British Indians are the largest ETHNIC population in the UK . So though his passport may say he is British he is an ethnic and therefore has/could have /has been proved to have loyalties to his ancestral roots that may/does /could result in a conflict of interests with any position he takes on where said conflicts affect his judgement in the interests of the UK . For that reason Ethnic minorities should not be allowed anywhere near high office And your problem with that opinion is?
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 13, 2024 14:01:27 GMT
Sorry, this is a direct quote from him "ethnic minorities should not be allowed anywhere near high office" Dogburger Legend ***** Posts: 1,324 Jun 8, 2024 at 7:52pm QuotelikePost OptionsPost by Dogburger on Jun 8, 2024 at 7:52pm The correct term (Ive got two minutes while the adverts are on ) is British Indian .A person whos ANCESTRAL roots are in India .British Indians are the largest ETHNIC population in the UK . So though his passport may say he is British he is an ethnic and therefore has/could have /has been proved to have loyalties to his ancestral roots that may/does /could result in a conflict of interests with any position he takes on where said conflicts affect his judgement in the interests of the UK . For that reason Ethnic minorities should not be allowed anywhere near high office And your problem with that opinion is? My problem is that it is incredibly racist. You don't see a problem with the idea ethnic minorities shouldn't be allowed in high office? Even Farage would call that racist and he sang Hitler Youth songs as a teenager.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 13, 2024 14:05:05 GMT
Evidence that Farage sang Hitler youth songs as a teenager?
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Post by wapentake on Aug 13, 2024 14:24:27 GMT
And your problem with that opinion is? My problem is that it is incredibly racist. You don't see a problem with the idea ethnic minorities shouldn't be allowed in high office? Even Farage would call that racist and he sang Hitler Youth songs as a teenager. No it isn’t it’s logical that someone with mixed loyalties could present a problem. The example I gave of the royal family,is pointing that out racist?
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Post by sandypine on Aug 13, 2024 14:36:40 GMT
And your problem with that opinion is? My problem is that it is incredibly racist. You don't see a problem with the idea ethnic minorities shouldn't be allowed in high office? Even Farage would call that racist and he sang Hitler Youth songs as a teenager. Why is it racist and if it is why is that wrong? The law describes ethnic minorities as different in law and in treatment under the law. One cannot be both an ethnic minority and one of the group. The race laws have divided up the country by ostensibly trying to do the right thing and making a gigantic cock of it. To be clear I do not necessarily agree with the viewpoint but I am keen to understand the morals and beliefs that surround it.
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 14, 2024 9:24:12 GMT
My problem is that it is incredibly racist. You don't see a problem with the idea ethnic minorities shouldn't be allowed in high office? Even Farage would call that racist and he sang Hitler Youth songs as a teenager. No it isn’t it’s logical that someone with mixed loyalties could present a problem. The example I gave of the royal family,is pointing that out racist? Why would a black person born in the UK with only UK citizenship have mixed loyalties? Mixed loyalties with whom?
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 14, 2024 9:26:53 GMT
My problem is that it is incredibly racist. You don't see a problem with the idea ethnic minorities shouldn't be allowed in high office? Even Farage would call that racist and he sang Hitler Youth songs as a teenager. Why is it racist and if it is why is that wrong? The law describes ethnic minorities as different in law and in treatment under the law. One cannot be both an ethnic minority and one of the group. The race laws have divided up the country by ostensibly trying to do the right thing and making a gigantic cock of it. To be clear I do not necessarily agree with the viewpoint but I am keen to understand the morals and beliefs that surround it. No it doesn't. Stop making stuff up. Why is it racist to say black or brown people shouldn't be allowed to hold high office and why is that wrong?? Are you for real?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2024 9:30:36 GMT
No it isn’t it’s logical that someone with mixed loyalties could present a problem. The example I gave of the royal family,is pointing that out racist? Why would a black person born in the UK with only UK citizenship have mixed loyalties? Mixed loyalties with whom? And there are people who say there are no stupid questions.
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