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Post by piglet on Aug 12, 2024 9:29:51 GMT
For social housing. Rayner has said that immigrants, illegal or not have equal claim. They have not paid a penny into the system, and if they are old, cannot speak, or refuse to, will not pay anything.
Meanwhile, those that have worked for a pittance, struggled to bring up families, etc, get overlooked.
This is Red Britain today.
Surely Labour have signed their resignation from goverrnment over and over. There is a huge vacuum, a big chance for Reform to fill the void. Labour are a pox.
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 12, 2024 9:58:04 GMT
For social housing. Rayner has said that immigrants, illegal or not have equal claim. They have not paid a penny into the system, and if they are old, cannot speak, or refuse to, will not pay anything. Meanwhile, those that have worked for a pittance, struggled to bring up families, etc, get overlooked. This is Red Britain today. Surely Labour have signed their resignation from goverrnment over and over. There is a huge vacuum, a big chance for Reform to fill the void. Labour are a pox. What about immigrants who work for a pittance and struggle to brin up a family versus an English person who hasn't paid a penny into the system? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 12, 2024 10:01:26 GMT
For social housing. Rayner has said that immigrants, illegal or not have equal claim. They have not paid a penny into the system, and if they are old, cannot speak, or refuse to, will not pay anything. Meanwhile, those that have worked for a pittance, struggled to bring up families, etc, get overlooked. This is Red Britain today. Surely Labour have signed their resignation from goverrnment over and over. There is a huge vacuum, a big chance for Reform to fill the void. Labour are a pox. This is why Starmers authoritarian government are comming down hard on demonstrators, they know damned well there's likely to be much more trouble and civil disorder ahead. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 12, 2024 10:06:12 GMT
What about immigrants who work for a pittance and struggle to bring up a family versus an English person who hasn't paid a penny into the system? 18,000 illegals have crossed the channel so far this year. They should be interned before being sent back to the EU, not pushed to the front of the housing queue and treated like honoured guests. Starmer knows this will cause trouble, and he's right. |
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 12, 2024 10:14:48 GMT
What about immigrants who work for a pittance and struggle to bring up a family versus an English person who hasn't paid a penny into the system? 18,000 illegals have crossed the channel so far this year. They should be interned before being sent back to the EU, not pushed to the front of the housing queue and treated like honoured guests.
Starmer knows this will cause trouble, and he's right. They're not. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 12, 2024 10:18:00 GMT
For social housing. Rayner has said that immigrants, illegal or not have equal claim. They have not paid a penny into the system, and if they are old, cannot speak, or refuse to, will not pay anything. Meanwhile, those that have worked for a pittance, struggled to bring up families, etc, get overlooked. This is Red Britain today. Surely Labour have signed their resignation from goverrnment over and over. There is a huge vacuum, a big chance for Reform to fill the void. Labour are a pox. What about immigrants who work for a pittance and struggle to brin up a family versus an English person who hasn't paid a penny into the system? The point is we have our own wasters and scroungers there is little point in importing more. Plus we are looking at why someone who comes into the country illegally should have equal rights to social housing for those who have been waiting possibly for years. It makes little sense in terms of being fair in any size shape or form if one does not control the influx effectively. |
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Post by ginnyg2 on Aug 12, 2024 10:29:51 GMT
What about immigrants who work for a pittance and struggle to bring up a family versus an English person who hasn't paid a penny into the system? 18,000 illegals have crossed the channel so far this year. They should be interned before being sent back to the EU, not pushed to the front of the housing queue and treated like honoured guests. Starmer knows this will cause trouble, and he's right. 700 more yesterday. Better get those house built Angie. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 12, 2024 10:32:33 GMT
18,000 illegals have crossed the channel so far this year. They should be interned before being sent back to the EU, not pushed to the front of the housing queue and treated like honoured guests.
Starmer knows this will cause trouble, and he's right. They're not.
Labour has been accused of putting illegal migrants ahead of Britons in the housing queue amid plans to “scatter” asylum seekers across the nation. The government has struck agreements with councils on the number of asylum seekers who will be settled in their area in a bid to shift away from using large military sites.Contractors have been advertising on behalf of the Home Office for landlords with empty homes to come forward. Former MP Matt Warman said: “The damage this policy would do to communities will make hotel use seem trivial, and it will hit areas where housing waiting lists are longest hardest. It will put rocket boosters under discontentment.”www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1932799/labour-keir-starmer-asylum-seekers-hotelsAnd in other news... At least 271,000 people are homeless in England today
england.shelter.org.uk/media/press_release/at_least_271000_people_are_homeless_in_england_today |
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 12, 2024 10:53:53 GMT
Labour accused of 'putting illegal migrants ahead of Britons' in housing queue
Labour has been accused of putting illegal migrants ahead of Britons in the housing queue amid plans to “scatter” asylum seekers across the nation. The government has struck agreements with councils on the number of asylum seekers who will be settled in their area in a bid to shift away from using large military sites.Contractors have been advertising on behalf of the Home Office for landlords with empty homes to come forward. Former MP Matt Warman said: “The damage this policy would do to communities will make hotel use seem trivial, and it will hit areas where housing waiting lists are longest hardest. It will put rocket boosters under discontentment.”www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1932799/labour-keir-starmer-asylum-seekers-hotelsAnd in other news... At least 271,000 people are homeless in England today
england.shelter.org.uk/media/press_release/at_least_271000_people_are_homeless_in_england_today Accused by the Tories and Reform, lol. Anyone can accuse anyone else of anything. Also that article seems to be getting mixed up with illegal immigrants and asylum seekers. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 12, 2024 11:48:24 GMT
Labour accused of 'putting illegal migrants ahead of Britons' in housing queue
Labour has been accused of putting illegal migrants ahead of Britons in the housing queue amid plans to “scatter” asylum seekers across the nation. The government has struck agreements with councils on the number of asylum seekers who will be settled in their area in a bid to shift away from using large military sites.Contractors have been advertising on behalf of the Home Office for landlords with empty homes to come forward. Former MP Matt Warman said: “The damage this policy would do to communities will make hotel use seem trivial, and it will hit areas where housing waiting lists are longest hardest. It will put rocket boosters under discontentment.”www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1932799/labour-keir-starmer-asylum-seekers-hotelsAnd in other news... At least 271,000 people are homeless in England today
england.shelter.org.uk/media/press_release/at_least_271000_people_are_homeless_in_england_today Accused by the Tories and Reform, lol. Anyone can accuse anyone else of anything. Also that article seems to be getting mixed up with illegal immigrants and asylum seekers. Where do you think the government and councils are housing thousands of illegals?.. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 12, 2024 12:18:09 GMT
For social housing. Rayner has said that immigrants, illegal or not have equal claim. They have not paid a penny into the system, and if they are old, cannot speak, or refuse to, will not pay anything. Meanwhile, those that have worked for a pittance, struggled to bring up families, etc, get overlooked. This is Red Britain today. Surely Labour have signed their resignation from goverrnment over and over. There is a huge vacuum, a big chance for Reform to fill the void. Labour are a pox. What about immigrants who work for a pittance and struggle to brin up a family versus an English person who hasn't paid a penny into the system? No one has said that ( legal)immigrants who work for a pittance to bring up a family should not be treated the same as an English person regarding housing . Try to keep up. |
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 12, 2024 14:07:56 GMT
What about immigrants who work for a pittance and struggle to brin up a family versus an English person who hasn't paid a penny into the system? No one has said that ( legal)immigrants who work for a pittance to bring up a family should not be treated the same as an English person regarding housing . Try to keep up. I think you'll find a lot of people say that. Heck, on this very forum you have at least one poster saying British-born ethnic minorities shouldn't be allowed to hold public office. You really think people like that want legal migrants treated the same as British people?? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 12, 2024 14:13:55 GMT
Also that article seems to be getting mixed up with illegal immigrants and asylum seekers. No, you are: Until asylum is granted they remain illegal immigrants. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 12, 2024 14:20:23 GMT
Wait till they all get a taste of power and the next local elections come round and they see it's all downhill for them, they'll be dropping these unpopular polices as quick as Ang drops her knickers, Labour MPs will want more than one term in office and to do that they'll have to start reversing their grossly unpopular policies.
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 12, 2024 14:26:17 GMT
Also that article seems to be getting mixed up with illegal immigrants and asylum seekers. No, you are: Until asylum is granted they remain illegal immigrants. Well that's wrong on two counts. 1) under international law, The right to seek asylum is a legal right we all share. It isn't illegal to seek asylum, because seeking asylum is a legal process. 2) Even under UK law, which violates the above international law, your statement is wrong. In UK law, anyone entering illegally is automatically rejected for asylum status - even if they are a gay person escaping Iran, so no illegal immigrants would be granted asylum. Under current UK law, a Jew who was smuggled out of Nazi Germany and into the UK would be rejected for asylum status. |
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