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Post by Veronika on Jul 11, 2024 18:15:35 GMT
Dear Forumers,
I have been thinking for some time that GB News faces a big threat under the Labour government.
The channel has only been on for about 3 years. And therefore they have only ever existed in an situation where there has been a Conservative government with a large and comfortable majority. So GB News is basically entering new and unknown territory under the Labour government.
And this is a very different Labour Party than in the past, of course. It used to be the case that even if people disagreed with Labour policies they could still be fairly sure that at least Labour politicians were mainly decent people, who could still be patriotic, they were people that you could still have a quite reasonable discussion with and get along with. But this will be a very different Labour government to all of the previous ones. It will be very different even to the Labour party that left office in 2010.
The Labour Party politicians are also such ghastly people now. Starmer is actually perhaps the least bad of the main team around him. The others are just so awful, like Angela Rayner, David Lammy and Emily Thornberry, et cetera. At least Jonathan Ashworth lost his seat, which is one relief at least.
Sir Keir Starmer may claim that he has improved everything since the Corbyn era. But a Labour government will now be an ultra-woke, ultra-PC, anti-free speech, anti-English, pro-mass migration, pro-EU government. And I think that this Labour government will pose an existential threat to GB News.
Labour's politicians may have given GB News plenty of interviews up until this moment. And they may have pretended that they care what the channel's viewers think, and want to please them. But now that they are in power, with such a big majority, I doubt that they will give GB News the time of day anymore. The channel will struggle to get questions asked at press conferences. Or to get any interviews at all.
The Labour Party in Wales had already banned GB News. And that was a bad sign of course. At best, this new UK Labour government will just ignore GB News. But it may actually want to silence the channel. And close it down.
Let us hope that GB News can survive this Labour government.
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by Bentley on Jul 11, 2024 19:35:20 GMT
In all fairness the welsh government only tried to ban GBnews on its internal tellys .
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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 12, 2024 7:12:34 GMT
Free speech is indeed in danger under this govt. And under the "New Establishment" all the pieces are in place for them to be able to shut down GB News.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 12, 2024 8:30:06 GMT
Free speech is indeed in danger under this govt. And under the "New Establishment" all the pieces are in place for them to be able to shut down GB News. If Starmer were smart he would understand the huge majority was not the endorsement of the people and indeed quite the reverse. He got less votes than Corbyn. He is on probation. He should be happy to have the majority and wise enough not to push his luck. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 12, 2024 8:54:06 GMT
Free speech is indeed in danger under this govt. And under the "New Establishment" all the pieces are in place for them to be able to shut down GB News. If Starmer were smart he would understand the huge majority was not the endorsement of the people and indeed quite the reverse. He got less votes than Corbyn. He is on probation. He should be happy to have the majority and wise enough not to push his luck. Possibly true, but the most worried party should be the Conservatives — they lost the election across the UK because the biggest motive for voting was to get rid of the party that had inflicted hardship on most of the population for 14 years. It must now be debatable whether the most successful political party in the Western World will survive long-term and ever regain power… |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 12, 2024 9:25:08 GMT
If Starmer were smart he would understand the huge majority was not the endorsement of the people and indeed quite the reverse. He got less votes than Corbyn. He is on probation. He should be happy to have the majority and wise enough not to push his luck. Possibly true, but the most worried party should be the Conservatives — they lost the election across the UK because the biggest motive for voting was to get rid of the party that had inflicted hardship on most of the population for 14 years. It must now be debatable whether the most successful political party in the Western World will survive long-term and ever regain power… I think there are two questions over Labour. Will they control immigration and will they improve the economy. They have a bad track record on both, hence the concern. If they deliver on both then everything will be fine and the Tories will not know what to do. It's too early to say now. I see they have some big plans. I see they are bringing in some clever people to help them deliver it, so it might work. They want to go big on green energy. I see that as the kind of thing where you could win if you did a proper job, but a half-arsed approach where you just fine people for stuff is no good. Green energy has to be cheaper and better, not forced on us. I think they want to have another go at building a battery factory. I'll believe it when I see it. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 12, 2024 12:53:26 GMT
If Starmer were smart he would understand the huge majority was not the endorsement of the people and indeed quite the reverse. He got less votes than Corbyn. He is on probation. He should be happy to have the majority and wise enough not to push his luck. Possibly true, but the most worried party should be the Conservatives — they lost the election across the UK because the biggest motive for voting was to get rid of the party that had inflicted hardship on most of the population for 14 years. It must now be debatable whether the most successful political party in the Western World will survive long-term and ever regain power… Depends how you look at it . The Tories do not have the responsibility of Government any more and they won’t for 5 or 10 years , maybe longer. Now all they need to do what Labour did ; sit back and gripe at every decision Labour makes and nit pick at every Labour minister. Eventually the public will get sick of the Labour government. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 12, 2024 12:57:11 GMT
Possibly true, but the most worried party should be the Conservatives — they lost the election across the UK because the biggest motive for voting was to get rid of the party that had inflicted hardship on most of the population for 14 years. It must now be debatable whether the most successful political party in the Western World will survive long-term and ever regain power… Depends how you look at it . The Tories do not have the responsibility of Government any more and they won’t for 5 or 10 years , maybe longer. Now all they need to do what Labour did ; sit back and gripe at every decision Labour makes and nit pick at every Labour minister. Eventually the public will get sick of the Labour government. I think in Westminster reform are going to do very well after a spell of labour party governance. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 12, 2024 13:11:55 GMT
Depends how you look at it . The Tories do not have the responsibility of Government any more and they won’t for 5 or 10 years , maybe longer. Now all they need to do what Labour did ; sit back and gripe at every decision Labour makes and nit pick at every Labour minister. Eventually the public will get sick of the Labour government. I think in Westminster reform are going to do very well after a spell of labour party governance. Possibly but the Tories might elect a right winger as leader …might. |
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Post by bancroft on Jul 12, 2024 13:24:35 GMT
Don't think they would dare close down GB news though they might want to.
That could be their first serious protest.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 12, 2024 13:44:47 GMT
Depends how you look at it . The Tories do not have the responsibility of Government any more and they won’t for 5 or 10 years , maybe longer. Now all they need to do what Labour did ; sit back and gripe at every decision Labour makes and nit pick at every Labour minister. Eventually the public will get sick of the Labour government. I think in Westminster reform are going to do very well after a spell of labour party governance. Maybe but Farage is already showing signs of being a loose cannon. He's like Johnson: great for publicity, totally shit at thinking. You know how car manufacturers used to sell cars at motor shows with blondes on the bonnet? Well that is how Reform need to employ Farage. Don't ask the blonde about fuel injection issues. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 12, 2024 13:48:12 GMT
I think in Westminster reform are going to do very well after a spell of labour party governance. Possibly but the Tories might elect a right winger as leader …might. anything possible , but I wonder if Farage is going to take Westminster by storm? If he sits in and holds starmer to account , I think looking at the tories ranks at present , his party could have a field day |
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Post by thomas on Jul 12, 2024 13:48:49 GMT
I think in Westminster reform are going to do very well after a spell of labour party governance. Maybe but Farage is already showing signs of being a loose cannon. He's like Johnson: great for publicity, totally shit at thinking. You know how car manufacturers used to sell cars at motor shows with blondes on the bonnet? Well that is how Reform need to employ Farage. Don't ask the blonde about fuel injection issues. possibly , one things for sure , we are going to find out soon enough . |
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Post by Handyman on Jul 12, 2024 13:57:00 GMT
If Starmer were smart he would understand the huge majority was not the endorsement of the people and indeed quite the reverse. He got less votes than Corbyn. He is on probation. He should be happy to have the majority and wise enough not to push his luck. Possibly true, but the most worried party should be the Conservatives — they lost the election across the UK because the biggest motive for voting was to get rid of the party that had inflicted hardship on most of the population for 14 years. It must now be debatable whether the most successful political party in the Western World will survive long-term and ever regain power… We had the years of austerity because Labour had drained the Treasury Coffers dry by reckless over spending, then Covid arrived which has cost £ Billions, it will be interesting to see how well Labour do now they are in the driving seat |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 12, 2024 14:34:14 GMT
Possibly but the Tories might elect a right winger as leader …might. anything possible , but I wonder if Farage is going to take Westminster by storm? If he sits in and holds starmer to account , I think looking at the tories ranks at present , his party could have a field day He could and he should . |
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