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Post by thomas on Jul 12, 2024 14:36:57 GMT
anything possible , but I wonder if Farage is going to take Westminster by storm? If he sits in and holds starmer to account , I think looking at the tories ranks at present , his party could have a field day He could and he should . I think so. You can bet anything starmer isnt looking forward to Farage holding his feet to the fire on numerous issues. This could be an extremely funny parliament . No polite handbags between labour and tory , the twin cheeks of the same arse , but full on fighting and starmer getting it tight. |
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Post by Hutchyns on Jul 12, 2024 17:16:02 GMT
Ed Davey who spent the election campaign pratting around in swimming pools, gets to Question Starmer every week. How often will Farage get to ask a question of Starmer this side of Christmas ?, you'll be able to count them on the fingers of one hand.
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Post by patman post on Jul 12, 2024 18:57:12 GMT
I think so. You can bet anything starmer isnt looking forward to Farage holding his feet to the fire on numerous issues. This could be an extremely funny parliament . No polite handbags between labour and tory , the twin cheeks of the same arse , but full on fighting and starmer getting it tight. If you position Farage central to those two cheeks of the same arse, I think I agree. Parliament saw off Johnson. It shouldn’t have much trouble with Farage if he attempts to pull fast ones… |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 12, 2024 21:27:31 GMT
I think so. You can bet anything starmer isnt looking forward to Farage holding his feet to the fire on numerous issues. This could be an extremely funny parliament . No polite handbags between labour and tory , the twin cheeks of the same arse , but full on fighting and starmer getting it tight. If you position Farage central to those two cheeks of the same arse, I think I agree. Parliament saw off Johnson. It shouldn’t have much trouble with Farage if he attempts to pull fast ones… What is the Parliament in Westminster going to do that the Parliament in Brussels didn't? |
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Post by patman post on Jul 13, 2024 8:20:06 GMT
If you position Farage central to those two cheeks of the same arse, I think I agree. Parliament saw off Johnson. It shouldn’t have much trouble with Farage if he attempts to pull fast ones… What is the Parliament in Westminster going to do that the Parliament in Brussels didn't? That's really a question for those who voted for Westminster to take back control from the now 720 MEPs from 27 countries.
But I noticed the slow reactions, by whoever presides over the EU parliament to Farage's childish demonstrations and outbursts, and compared them with the quick slap down and suspensions by the Commons Speaker — 17 since 2019...
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Post by thomas on Jul 13, 2024 9:30:50 GMT
I think so. You can bet anything starmer isnt looking forward to Farage holding his feet to the fire on numerous issues. This could be an extremely funny parliament . No polite handbags between labour and tory , the twin cheeks of the same arse , but full on fighting and starmer getting it tight. If you position Farage central to those two cheeks of the same arse, I think I agree. Parliament saw off Johnson. It shouldn’t have much trouble with Farage if he attempts to pull fast ones… It's funny though. Im guessing Farage and cohorts being elected is the big fly in the ointment for you this election. Im calling it now , I believe labour will empower Farage massively during their time in power , and massively push up reforms vote even further to the detriment of both labour and tory next election. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 13, 2024 11:18:13 GMT
Free speech is indeed in danger under this govt. And under the "New Establishment" all the pieces are in place for them to be able to shut down GB News. I couldn't help noticing a few days ago when Starmer gave a press conference he refused to take a question from Chris Hope, the GB News rep. A sign of things to come? I have no doubt there are people especially from within the BBC & C4 who are putting pressure on this government to close down GB News, and with a culture secretary as woke as Lisa Nandy, who knows. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 13, 2024 12:52:42 GMT
As GB News averages 2.7 million viewers per month (only a 0.45% share of linear TV), would it be missed?
It only needs to abide by the rules — as all UK-based broadcasters have to, it's not being singled out — and have its backers fund the £42.4m loss for the year to end of May 2024 (up from £30.7m from the year before) and GB News will be able to carry on...
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Post by sandypine on Jul 13, 2024 15:34:41 GMT
As GB News averages 2.7 million viewers per month (only a 0.45% share of linear TV), would it be missed? It only needs to abide by the rules — as all UK-based broadcasters have to, it's not being singled out — and have its backers fund the £42.4m loss for the year to end of May 2024 (up from £30.7m from the year before) and GB News will be able to carry on... I admit I have a limited range but personally I do not know anyone who does not prefer GBnews. Advertisers were lining up at one time and all that stopped then was not that they did not reach an audience but that concerted threatened action may negate those gains. So it is not that people do not want to watch GB news or that advertisers do not wish to place adverts the losses are down to organised opposition to their existence irrespective of whether or not they obey Ofcom guidelines. It seems the left in general believe 'hate' is that with which they do not agree |
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Post by bancroft on Jul 13, 2024 15:37:58 GMT
Ed Davey who spent the election campaign pratting around in swimming pools, gets to Question Starmer every week. How often will Farage get to ask a question of Starmer this side of Christmas ?, you'll be able to count them on the fingers of one hand. I'm sure Farage will make the point Reform were the third biggest party by votes yet get short changed with the ability to ask questions. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 13, 2024 16:20:36 GMT
As GB News averages 2.7 million viewers per month (only a 0.45% share of linear TV), and would it be missed?It only needs to abide by the rules — as all UK-based broadcasters have to, it's not being singled out — and have its backers fund the £42.4m loss for the year to end of May 2024 (up from £30.7m from the year before) and GB News will be able to carry on... Yes. Just as the magazine private eye would be missed . It’s an alternative point of view . Something lefties and far right wingers hate. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 14, 2024 6:30:13 GMT
As GB News averages 2.7 million viewers per month (only a 0.45% share of linear TV), would it be missed? It only needs to abide by the rules — as all UK-based broadcasters have to, it's not being singled out — and have its backers fund the £42.4m loss for the year to end of May 2024 (up from £30.7m from the year before) and GB News will be able to carry on... But Ofcom's rules seem to be different for the likes of the BBC than to GB News. I was listening to Jeremy Bowen talking about what "impartiality" means the other day on R4. He said that it's often mischaracterised as having to present both sides of the argument but he rejected this. He used the analogy of two people reporting on the weather. with one saying it's dry and the other saying it's raining. Bowen said that the BBC does not have to report both views. What the BBC does is look out of the window and report the "truth". And he added that the BBC no longer reports both sides of the argument on climate change - which is obvious. The trouble with this argument is that it means that the BBC is setting itself up as the arbiter of "truth" - and the truth is not always as simple as whether it's raining or not. One noticeable thing about GB News is that they always scrupulously "balance" right wing views with left wing views. Both Farage and Tice when they broadcast on GB News (and Talk) were very careful about doing this. The BBC doesn't, but gets away with it - and even boasts about it. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 14, 2024 12:09:17 GMT
As GB News averages 2.7 million viewers per month (only a 0.45% share of linear TV), would it be missed? It only needs to abide by the rules — as all UK-based broadcasters have to, it's not being singled out — and have its backers fund the £42.4m loss for the year to end of May 2024 (up from £30.7m from the year before) and GB News will be able to carry on... But Ofcom's rules seem to be different for the likes of the BBC than to GB News. I was listening to Jeremy Bowen talking about what "impartiality" means the other day on R4. He said that it's often mischaracterised as having to present both sides of the argument but he rejected this. He used the analogy of two people reporting on the weather. with one saying it's dry and the other saying it's raining. Bowen said that the BBC does not have to report both views. What the BBC does is look out of the window and report the "truth". And he added that the BBC no longer reports both sides of the argument on climate change - which is obvious. The trouble with this argument is that it means that the BBC is setting itself up as the arbiter of "truth" - and the truth is not always as simple as whether it's raining or not. One noticeable thing about GB News is that they always scrupulously "balance" right wing views with left wing views. Both Farage and Tice when they broadcast on GB News (and Talk) were very careful about doing this. The BBC doesn't, but gets away with it - and even boasts about it. Private Eye is the top publication in its class. GB News is still running around bottom in linear TV output. I admit I rarely watch GB News and then only if referred to something by a client that thinks it relevant to their business. I’m a regular Private Eye reader even though it’s sometimes critical of the BBC… |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 14, 2024 13:39:36 GMT
But Ofcom's rules seem to be different for the likes of the BBC than to GB News. I was listening to Jeremy Bowen talking about what "impartiality" means the other day on R4. He said that it's often mischaracterised as having to present both sides of the argument but he rejected this. He used the analogy of two people reporting on the weather. with one saying it's dry and the other saying it's raining. Bowen said that the BBC does not have to report both views. What the BBC does is look out of the window and report the "truth". And he added that the BBC no longer reports both sides of the argument on climate change - which is obvious. The trouble with this argument is that it means that the BBC is setting itself up as the arbiter of "truth" - and the truth is not always as simple as whether it's raining or not. One noticeable thing about GB News is that they always scrupulously "balance" right wing views with left wing views. Both Farage and Tice when they broadcast on GB News (and Talk) were very careful about doing this. The BBC doesn't, but gets away with it - and even boasts about it. Private Eye is the top publication in its class. GB News is still running around bottom in linear TV output. I admit I rarely watch GB News and then only if referred to something by a client that thinks it relevant to their business. I’m a regular Private Eye reader even though it’s sometimes critical of the BBC… “ Private Eye is the top publication in its class.“ means nothing . |
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Post by patman post on Jul 14, 2024 13:59:30 GMT
Private Eye is the top publication in its class. GB News is still running around bottom in linear TV output. I admit I rarely watch GB News and then only if referred to something by a client that thinks it relevant to their business. I’m a regular Private Eye reader even though it’s sometimes critical of the BBC… “ Private Eye is the top publication in its class.“ means nothing . Try: "Private Eye remains the biggest-selling UK news and current affairs magazine". Maybe you'll be able to disprove that, but we may all learn something if you try... |
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