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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 9, 2024 7:39:27 GMT
34% of the vote was hardly decisive and with all of Starmer's U-Turns Labour voters didn't know what they were voting for.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 9, 2024 7:43:33 GMT
I'm all for it. Can Sinn Fein fund a couple of timers ??
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 9, 2024 7:43:59 GMT
The general election result was partly due to what voters DO WANT
and partly due to what they DONT WANT ... any more Tory government
So far, not one U Turn from the Labour party manifesto, or pledges going into the election, but then its less than one week since the new government took over.
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Post by sheepy on Jul 9, 2024 7:45:46 GMT
None of the above won hands down, no mandate for the Westminster party, it is being done in their own name not that of the public who the majority of the electorate point blank refuse it as an option. If they are so confident in their own abilities, may they crack on, it has ended badly time after time.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 9, 2024 7:49:36 GMT
Yep. I think Parliament should stand down and just let the EU become caretakers.
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 8:00:44 GMT
34% of the vote was hardly decisive and with all of Starmer's U-Turns Labour voters didn't know what they were voting for. starmer no mandate. Keep shouting it from the rooftops , and the dodgy Westminster North Korean style system of election , where on 2/10 of the overall electorate , you can win 64% of seats . It's laughable , and makes the uk look to international observers like a fucking banana republic. No point in re running it though under the same dodgy system . I would let labour do their worst, causing chaos on no mandate , and it might galvanise change in the near future.
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 8:01:46 GMT
The general election result was partly due to what voters DO WANT and partly due to what they DONT WANT ... any more Tory government So far, not one U Turn from the Labour party manifesto, or pledges going into the election, but then its less than one week since the new government took over. no it wasn't. The voters dont want labour, which we see as two thirds didnt vote for them who bothered turning out. so what are you talking about?
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 8:04:49 GMT
Yep. I think Parliament should stand down and just let the EU become caretakers. that's a few times Andrew you have mentioned or hinted about the EU since I came on here yesterday. Will starmer have the bottle to take the uk back in via some closer association , rule taking BRINO ? with no mandate? I would have thought with all the pro europeans im told are out there labour would have taken over 50 % of the turnout , but instead they got a measly 33.7% . lammy is demanding a "reset" , but does cautious starmer have the balls to do anything else but continue to sit on his hands waffling? im not sure.
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 8:09:07 GMT
So far, not one U Turn from the Labour party manifesto, or pledges going into the election, but then its less than one week since the new government took over. what is the great plan then Sid? I must have missed it. Grand sounding titles , with little detail like GB energy , which isnt an energy company, and won't renationalise energy , or for example Reeves shaking up planning permission to allow builders to build dodgy estates ,yet more unaffordable housing , at massive profit to them , on flood plains? No council houses for the English , and Wes streeting demand scotland privatise our NHS ? I tell you Sid , im patiently waiting on the red tories setting the heather on fire , im giving you time , its early days , but by christ labour are boring.
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 8:13:28 GMT
starmer is close to sunak levels of dislike , and we aren't even at the end of week one of his lack of mandate premiership....
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Post by Dogburger on Jul 9, 2024 8:50:20 GMT
starmer is close to sunak levels of dislike , and we aren't even at the end of week one of his lack of mandate premiership.... Corbyn was and probably still is more popular and even got more votes than sir kneel-a-lot . He is PM by default ,through the incompetence of the Tories which lost the floating vote and the slide to the left which lost them the vote of their own supporters . But a re-run ? Same result I'm afraid , when we dont like any of them we get what we dont like
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 8:58:17 GMT
starmer is close to sunak levels of dislike , and we aren't even at the end of week one of his lack of mandate premiership.... Corbyn was and probably still is more popular and even got more votes than sir kneel-a-lot . He is PM by default ,through the incompetence of the Tories which lost the floating vote and the slide to the left which lost them the vote of their own supporters . But a re-run ? Same result I'm afraid , when we dont like any of them we get what we dont like as long as the uk continues with fptp , you will see the continued political decline , and the coronation of chancers like that clown starmer. I still can't believe reform got 14 % of the vote , the liberals 12% , but got 4 and 72 seats respectively , before we even moan about labour small 33.7 per cent share. Corbyn dont forget had the whole establishment against him , and all the media , starmer the opposite , and he still got half million less than Corbyn. It's fucking laughable. apparently Kim Jong un loves the uk fptp system , and has instructed the politburo to implement it immediately.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 9, 2024 9:02:42 GMT
Yep. I think Parliament should stand down and just let the EU become caretakers. Well the lefties wanted to overturn the democratic vote of the people and have another referendum because it wasn't the result they wanted.
So now we want another GE because it wasn't the result we wanted.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 9, 2024 9:09:20 GMT
Yep. I think Parliament should stand down and just let the EU become caretakers. Well the lefties wanted to overturn the democratic vote of the people and have another referendum because it wasn't the result they wanted.
So now we want another GE because it wasn't the result we wanted. Well, they said that 52% wasn't good enough - so clearly they accept that 34% isn't.
And let's face it: They didn't know what they were voting for.
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 9:12:16 GMT
Well the lefties wanted to overturn the democratic vote of the people and have another referendum because it wasn't the result they wanted.
So now we want another GE because it wasn't the result we wanted. Well, they said that 52% wasn't good enough - so clearly they accept that 34% isn't.
And let's face it: They didn't know what they were voting for.
you are being generous . 33.7% . They didnt know what they were voting for as starmer is a blank piece of paper policy and principle free.
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