Starmer says ‘paying tax’ should be key to having a vote

you prove my point - expanding the franchise has not been a success.

In all, it’s a half baked leftie popularist idea then .

Quite right, well said.

Indeed I do remember being 16 and 17. Left school aged 16, was never unemployed and always had money in my pocket. Of course that was still living at home.  However at age 17 I decided to take the Queens shilling and I never looked back.

I cant remember the first time I voted, but I do remember mum telling me how important it was to vote, she took voting very seriously, and she was very Labour, she liked Mr Wilson. I was a kid, OK I was in the army but I was still a kid, I was wasn't interested in politics there were far more exiting things for a testosterone filled 18 year old to be interested in, there was a big wide world out there and I discovered the world was full of girls who wanted to shag me to death, I was an 18 year old with a permanent hard on, I was a kid in a candy store. And just before I was posted out, my younger brother who joined two years after me was posted in, happy days. As it happens a few years later exactly the same thing happened in Germany, we never served together but we did cross paths briefly. 

Oh yes getting back to thread, perish the thought I should be banned for straying from the OP... yes indeed politics, in later years when I was in other countries I voted by proxy via my mum. Am I giving ther impression I was a mummy's boy? She would have liked that, bless her.

Self hating white Leftie alert ^

Yep, but this is his only pleasure in life, which is why he's always here posting lies and trolling.

Only a deranged moron would think a 16 year old is experienced enough to make an informed independent decision like this. The only people who are for it are those who openly support brainwashing and grooming school children.