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Post by Red Rackham on May 25, 2024 21:50:02 GMT
Labour’s VAT raid blamed for closure of Alton school in HampshireAccording to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, up to 40,000 children will be pushed out of private schools and into state schools as a result of Labour’s plans, at a cost of up to £300 million a year to the taxpayer. Starmer, however, has promised to implement his plan immediately should he be in Downing Street on July 5. The VAT charge is expected to raise £1.6bn to spend on a range of state education commitments. postsoviet.eu/blog/stdc46ad30995cdvcetjon27.htmlHow very socialist. The state education system is creaking under the strain of oversubscribed schools, not helped by hundreds of thousands of immigrant children many of whom cant speak English. Parents struggle to find school places and are often forced to drive their children miles to get to a school. So what does Starmer do? He forces private schools to close which will force 40,000 kids into an already overstretched state school system. Well done Starmer, well done Labour. If this is a sign of things to come, god help this country.
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Post by Pacifico on May 26, 2024 7:01:10 GMT
Yes - this policy has already cost the taxpayer £20 Million and Labour have not even won an election yet.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 9:56:31 GMT
That's doing very well to blame Labour for something that hasn't happened yet. Can't be anything to do with the last 10 years of lamentable Tory administration, can it?
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Post by Handyman on May 26, 2024 10:32:00 GMT
Labour’s VAT raid blamed for closure of Alton school in HampshireAccording to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, up to 40,000 children will be pushed out of private schools and into state schools as a result of Labour’s plans, at a cost of up to £300 million a year to the taxpayer. Starmer, however, has promised to implement his plan immediately should he be in Downing Street on July 5. The VAT charge is expected to raise £1.6bn to spend on a range of state education commitments. postsoviet.eu/blog/stdc46ad30995cdvcetjon27.htmlHow very socialist. The state education system is creaking under the strain of oversubscribed schools, not helped by hundreds of thousands of immigrant children many of whom cant speak English. Parents struggle to find school places and are often forced to drive their children miles to get to a school. So what does Starmer do? He forces private schools to close which will force 40,000 kids into an already overstretched state school system. Well done Starmer, well done Labour. If this is a sign of things to come, god help this country. IMHO the Politics of envy, It would be better to try bring State Schools up the same standard of education as some of the private and charitable schools, sadly many of the pupils leaving State Schools have poor educational standards which makes it difficult for them to find work when they leave
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Post by Pacifico on May 26, 2024 10:46:19 GMT
That's doing very well to blame Labour for something that hasn't happened yet. Can't be anything to do with the last 10 years of lamentable Tory administration, can it? The administration cannot have been that lamentable - pupil numbers in private schools have risen 10% since 2010.
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Post by Handyman on May 26, 2024 11:40:46 GMT
Many of the Private Schools have been in place for years and years under different Governments
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Post by Bentley on May 26, 2024 13:12:10 GMT
They are merely echoing the leftie polirics of envy mindset. They want us all to be thick, poor and sexually confused in the name of equality of outcome.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 17:47:29 GMT
That's doing very well to blame Labour for something that hasn't happened yet. Can't be anything to do with the last 10 years of lamentable Tory administration, can it? Yes they are blaming Labour for something they haven't even done yet. Every policy decision at government level these past fourteen years, with a little help from Clegg and co for the first five, is down to the Tories. And even the figures cited above presuming an exodus from private schools of up to 40,000 pupils - in other words the highest possible estimate - at a cost to the taxpayer of up to an extra £300 million is clearly a win win from a policy set to raise £1.6 billion. Ie the highest possible estimate of costs are less than a fifth of the money to be raised by the policy, leaving a net gain of at least £1.3 billion extra for education spending. You would need ideological blinkers, self interest, or piss poor arithmetical abilities not to see this, lol
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 17:50:48 GMT
That's doing very well to blame Labour for something that hasn't happened yet. Can't be anything to do with the last 10 years of lamentable Tory administration, can it? The administration cannot have been that lamentable - pupil numbers in private schools have risen 10% since 2010. That is doubtful insofar as the one that has closed is concerned, since a Labour policy not even implemented yet cannot yet have done any fiscal damage. Unless it has resulted in the school raising fees before it had to. I suspect it has rather more to do with the cost of living crisis presided over by your lot
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 17:57:25 GMT
Labour’s VAT raid blamed for closure of Alton school in HampshireAccording to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, up to 40,000 children will be pushed out of private schools and into state schools as a result of Labour’s plans, at a cost of up to £300 million a year to the taxpayer. Starmer, however, has promised to implement his plan immediately should he be in Downing Street on July 5. The VAT charge is expected to raise £1.6bn to spend on a range of state education commitments. postsoviet.eu/blog/stdc46ad30995cdvcetjon27.htmlHow very socialist. The state education system is creaking under the strain of oversubscribed schools, not helped by hundreds of thousands of immigrant children many of whom cant speak English. Parents struggle to find school places and are often forced to drive their children miles to get to a school. So what does Starmer do? He forces private schools to close which will force 40,000 kids into an already overstretched state school system. Well done Starmer, well done Labour. If this is a sign of things to come, god help this country. IMHO the Politics of envy, It would be better to try bring State Schools up the same standard of education as some of the private and charitable schools, sadly many of the pupils leaving State Schools have poor educational standards which makes it difficult for them to find work when they leave That tired old canard. Yawn. I dont envy the poor blighters having to go to these schools one single jot. Because it isolates them from many normal kids in many cases. And what do you think removing tax breaks funded by the rest of us is designed to do other than redirect that money into state education improvements? Why should tax breaks be used to subsidise the expensive educations of the children of the better off, when the money is so more desperately needed in other areas of the education system?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 18:02:18 GMT
They are merely echoing the leftie polirics of envy mindset. They want us all to be thick, poor and sexually confused in the name of equality of outcome. Politics of envy, blah blah blah. Change the frigging record for fuck sake. How unthinkingly kneejerk and boring from those who have spent a life time championing the rights of the wealthy elites whilst happily shitting on the rest of us. Useful idiots, every one of you.
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Post by Bentley on May 26, 2024 18:12:44 GMT
They are merely echoing the leftie polirics of envy mindset. They want us all to be thick, poor and sexually confused in the name of equality of outcome. Politics of envy, blah blah blah. Change the frigging record for fuck sake. How unthinkingly kneejerk and boring from those who have spent a life time championing the rights of the wealthy elites whilst happily shitting on the rest of us. Useful idiots, every one of you. You are the politics of envy poster boy . Lefties are idiots without being useful , every one of you . Your shoulder chip needs adjusting .
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Post by Handyman on May 26, 2024 18:38:26 GMT
IMHO the Politics of envy, It would be better to try bring State Schools up the same standard of education as some of the private and charitable schools, sadly many of the pupils leaving State Schools have poor educational standards which makes it difficult for them to find work when they leave That tired old canard. Yawn. I dont envy the poor blighters having to go to these schools one single jot. Because it isolates them from many normal kids in many cases. And what do you think removing tax breaks funded by the rest of us is designed to do other than redirect that money into state education improvements? Why should tax breaks be used to subsidise the expensive educations of the children of the better off, when the money is so more desperately needed in other areas of the education system? Private schools do not get Government funding in the United Kingdom. While they have to be registered with the Government and get inspected on a regular basis, like any other school, they’re funded by school fees and gifts rather than the Government. Most private schools in the UK have charitable status, allowing them to take advantage of various tax concessions – to be eligible, they must prove that they provide public benefit. Due to the fact that they exempt from VAT it means they can and do offer Bursaries free places to selected children whose parents cannot afford the Fees, Blair benefitted from that scheme. Some people think that if parents are filthy rich their children are sent off to Private Schools no problem, not so if your child cannot pass the entrance exam they won't be accepted no matter how rich they are
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2024 18:45:00 GMT
That tired old canard. Yawn. I dont envy the poor blighters having to go to these schools one single jot. Because it isolates them from many normal kids in many cases. And what do you think removing tax breaks funded by the rest of us is designed to do other than redirect that money into state education improvements? Why should tax breaks be used to subsidise the expensive educations of the children of the better off, when the money is so more desperately needed in other areas of the education system? Private schools do not get Government funding in the United Kingdom. While they have to be registered with the Government and get inspected on a regular basis, like any other school, they’re funded by school fees and gifts rather than the Government. Most private schools in the UK have charitable status, allowing them to take advantage of various tax concessions – to be eligible, they must prove that they provide public benefit. Due to the fact that they exempt from VAT it means they can and do offer Bursaries free places to selected children whose parents cannot afford the Fees, Blair benefitted from that scheme. Some people think that if parents are filthy rich their children are sent off to Private Schools no problem, not so if your child cannot pass the entrance exam they won't be accepted no matter how rich they are None of which alters the basic facts that the policy of withdrawing the tax breaks is designed to redirect funding where it is more pressingly needed. For the many and not the few.
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Post by Handyman on May 26, 2024 18:55:01 GMT
Private schools do not get Government funding in the United Kingdom. While they have to be registered with the Government and get inspected on a regular basis, like any other school, they’re funded by school fees and gifts rather than the Government. Most private schools in the UK have charitable status, allowing them to take advantage of various tax concessions – to be eligible, they must prove that they provide public benefit. Due to the fact that they exempt from VAT it means they can and do offer Bursaries free places to selected children whose parents cannot afford the Fees, Blair benefitted from that scheme. Some people think that if parents are filthy rich their children are sent off to Private Schools no problem, not so if your child cannot pass the entrance exam they won't be accepted no matter how rich they are None of which alters the basic facts that the policy of withdrawing the tax breaks is designed to redirect funding where it is more pressingly needed. For the many and not the few. Changing the frigging record , bored with hearing this sort of nonsense over and over for years,
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