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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2024 14:28:16 GMT
That tired old canard. Yawn. I dont envy the poor blighters having to go to these schools one single jot. Because it isolates them from many normal kids in many cases. And what do you think removing tax breaks funded by the rest of us is designed to do other than redirect that money into state education improvements? Why should tax breaks be used to subsidise the expensive educations of the children of the better off, when the money is so more desperately needed in other areas of the education system? Parents who decide to pay to send their kid to private schools do not get a refund on the portion of their taxes that is technically ''allocated'' for said kid's state education . They have paid for something thy aren't using, that's no tax break If kid is moved into the state sector - their tax allocation is being used for their entitlement to state education - that mean less money available for the whole. Al Capone would have loved your accounting style, lol. Pull the other one. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 27, 2024 14:40:05 GMT
Well you can shoot the messenger is you like, but the reality is that taxation changes behaviour. We even have swathes of taxation based on that simple principle. But it is not going to change the behaviour of those using private schools by anything like the degree self interested groups would try to have us believe it will. Private schools reporting a 5% drop in pupils already. At 10% many go bust. ..and the policy has not even been introduced yet. who told you this? |
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Post by Pacifico on May 27, 2024 14:50:56 GMT
"Take Starmer’s alma mater, the £21,000-a-year Reigate Grammar. Its bursaries work out at 100 fully-funded places a year, so children from modest households are able to enjoy the same quality of education as Sir Keir. How many would continue to do so once their Old Boy is in No10? "
Private education will get even more elitist
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Post by Bentley on May 27, 2024 15:00:54 GMT
"Take Starmer’s alma mater, the £21,000-a-year Reigate Grammar. Its bursaries work out at 100 fully-funded places a year, so children from modest households are able to enjoy the same quality of education as Sir Keir. How many would continue to do so once their Old Boy is in No10? "Private education will get even more elitist That’s exactly what will happen . It will make no difference to the leftie proles. They hate the person with a pound more than them than they hate rich socialists . |
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Post by ratcliff on May 27, 2024 15:44:43 GMT
Parents who decide to pay to send their kid to private schools do not get a refund on the portion of their taxes that is technically ''allocated'' for said kid's state education . They have paid for something thy aren't using, that's no tax break If kid is moved into the state sector - their tax allocation is being used for their entitlement to state education - that mean less money available for the whole. Al Capone would have loved your accounting style, lol. Pull the other one. Those taxpayers who pay for private education pay twice, as do those who pay for private healthcare |
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Post by ratcliff on May 27, 2024 15:46:32 GMT
But it is not going to change the behaviour of those using private schools by anything like the degree self interested groups would try to have us believe it will. Private schools reporting a 5% drop in pupils already. At 10% many go bust. ..and the policy has not even been introduced yet. who told you this? A green eyed lefty (probably privately educated like Sir Keir of the extra special just for him and no-one else pension fund) |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2024 19:27:36 GMT
Al Capone would have loved your accounting style, lol. Pull the other one. Those taxpayers who pay for private education pay twice, as do those who pay for private healthcare Which is entirely their choice and not something they are forced to do. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 27, 2024 21:47:49 GMT
Seems Starmer has not thought this through - who is surprised?.. Private school parents looking to escape Labour’s VAT raid have been warned there are very few state school places available.The message from officials at Newcastle city council is echoed across the country, with at least eight authorities warning that there are few to no places available and one stating that there is “no guarantee” of an immediate space.Councils that have issued warnings about availability for so-called “in-year” transfers include Cambridgeshire, which says on its website it has “no available spaces in secondary schools in the Fenland area”, and Oxfordshire, which lists several areas that have “very few or no” places.Wokingham borough council has told parents that “all schools” are “heavily oversubscribed” and “there is no guarantee of an immediate school place”.According to the Leeds city council website, there are no places at all for year 10 students and for year 9s only one academy has a handful of spaces.Vale of Glamorgan and Solihull both warn that a child may not be able to leave their current school, with the Welsh council saying pupils should not be taken out of a school until a new place is confirmed.Newcastle is one of a number of councils that advises against moving secondary schools on the basis that it could “adversely affect your child’s education”.What sort of Party implements a policy designed to increase demand for places in State Schools before ensuring that those places are available - a Party that cares nothing for our childrens future it seems..  |
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Post by Pacifico on May 28, 2024 6:54:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2024 8:45:40 GMT
Al Capone would have loved your accounting style, lol. Pull the other one. Those taxpayers who pay for private education pay twice, as do those who pay for private healthcare But no one is forcing them to do so are they? They are freely choosing to do so out of the goodness of their hearts and deserve a medal, maybe a knighthood, and definitely a tax break. |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 30, 2024 18:11:30 GMT
Labour’s VAT raid blamed for closure of Alton school in HampshireAccording to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, up to 40,000 children will be pushed out of private schools and into state schools as a result of Labour’s plans, at a cost of up to £300 million a year to the taxpayer. Starmer, however, has promised to implement his plan immediately should he be in Downing Street on July 5. The VAT charge is expected to raise £1.6bn to spend on a range of state education commitments. postsoviet.eu/blog/stdc46ad30995cdvcetjon27.htmlHow very socialist. The state education system is creaking under the strain of oversubscribed schools, not helped by hundreds of thousands of immigrant children many of whom cant speak English. Parents struggle to find school places and are often forced to drive their children miles to get to a school. So what does Starmer do? He forces private schools to close which will force 40,000 kids into an already overstretched state school system. Well done Starmer, well done Labour. If this is a sign of things to come, god help this country. Except it wasn't really true. bylinetimes.com/2024/05/28/report-on-closure-of-private-school-is-attempt-by-conservative-establishment-to-scare-voters-away-from-labour-and-has-nothing-to-do-with-partys-vat-payment-plans/ |
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Post by Pacifico on May 30, 2024 21:45:09 GMT
Labour’s VAT raid blamed for closure of Alton school in HampshireAccording to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, up to 40,000 children will be pushed out of private schools and into state schools as a result of Labour’s plans, at a cost of up to £300 million a year to the taxpayer. Starmer, however, has promised to implement his plan immediately should he be in Downing Street on July 5. The VAT charge is expected to raise £1.6bn to spend on a range of state education commitments. postsoviet.eu/blog/stdc46ad30995cdvcetjon27.htmlHow very socialist. The state education system is creaking under the strain of oversubscribed schools, not helped by hundreds of thousands of immigrant children many of whom cant speak English. Parents struggle to find school places and are often forced to drive their children miles to get to a school. So what does Starmer do? He forces private schools to close which will force 40,000 kids into an already overstretched state school system. Well done Starmer, well done Labour. If this is a sign of things to come, god help this country. Except it wasn't really true. yes it was |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 30, 2024 21:58:47 GMT
Except it wasn't really true. yes it was What is your evidence for this? |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 31, 2024 9:15:35 GMT
Labour’s VAT raid blamed for closure of Alton school in HampshireAccording to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, up to 40,000 children will be pushed out of private schools and into state schools as a result of Labour’s plans, at a cost of up to £300 million a year to the taxpayer. Starmer, however, has promised to implement his plan immediately should he be in Downing Street on July 5. The VAT charge is expected to raise £1.6bn to spend on a range of state education commitments. postsoviet.eu/blog/stdc46ad30995cdvcetjon27.htmlHow very socialist. The state education system is creaking under the strain of oversubscribed schools, not helped by hundreds of thousands of immigrant children many of whom cant speak English. Parents struggle to find school places and are often forced to drive their children miles to get to a school. So what does Starmer do? He forces private schools to close which will force 40,000 kids into an already overstretched state school system. Well done Starmer, well done Labour. If this is a sign of things to come, god help this country. Except it wasn't really true. bylinetimes.com/2024/05/28/report-on-closure-of-private-school-is-attempt-by-conservative-establishment-to-scare-voters-away-from-labour-and-has-nothing-to-do-with-partys-vat-payment-plans/Byline Times! LOL, ' Byline Times' Really? Don't give me that socialist claptrap, it's little more than a left wing blog. Christ almighty Byline Times makes the Socialist Worker look right wing. Several days ago a spokesman for Alton school said Labours proposed VAT changes are the final straw that has pushed the school over the edge. I have every confidence 'Byline Times' would call him a liar, Ha. I wonder how many other small private schools who operate on very tight margins will follow? And all these kids will be forced into an overstretched and under performing state education system that is struggling to cope not least of all thanks to mass immigration that will inevitably increase under a Labour government. It's the politics of envy. Is this what Labour calls progress? Well yes, sadly it is. |
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Post by ratcliff on May 31, 2024 11:29:37 GMT
Labour’s VAT raid blamed for closure of Alton school in HampshireAccording to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, up to 40,000 children will be pushed out of private schools and into state schools as a result of Labour’s plans, at a cost of up to £300 million a year to the taxpayer. Starmer, however, has promised to implement his plan immediately should he be in Downing Street on July 5. The VAT charge is expected to raise £1.6bn to spend on a range of state education commitments. postsoviet.eu/blog/stdc46ad30995cdvcetjon27.htmlHow very socialist. The state education system is creaking under the strain of oversubscribed schools, not helped by hundreds of thousands of immigrant children many of whom cant speak English. Parents struggle to find school places and are often forced to drive their children miles to get to a school. So what does Starmer do? He forces private schools to close which will force 40,000 kids into an already overstretched state school system. Well done Starmer, well done Labour. If this is a sign of things to come, god help this country. Except it wasn't really true. bylinetimes.com/2024/05/28/report-on-closure-of-private-school-is-attempt-by-conservative-establishment-to-scare-voters-away-from-labour-and-has-nothing-to-do-with-partys-vat-payment-plans/Byline times? That lefty blog .You might as well quoted the Morning Star |
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