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Post by piglet on May 15, 2024 8:39:12 GMT
Is that it will see the end, finally, of that shiny faced as shole, David Cameron.
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Post by jonksy on May 16, 2024 15:06:21 GMT
Is that it will see the end, finally, of that shiny faced as shole, David Cameron. Another plus will be for those who vote for the first time and do not know what a shit show it is under labour...They will soon regret their choice.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 17, 2024 11:25:15 GMT
Personally, I cant see a Labour win having any redeeming features. Prime minister Starmer is a frightening prospect.
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Post by Vinny on May 17, 2024 11:39:08 GMT
Personally, I cant see a Labour win having any redeeming features. Prime minister Starmer is a frightening prospect. Quite likely to only be a one term PM. Can't see him achieving a Blair like landslide.
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Post by andrewbrown on May 17, 2024 11:40:56 GMT
Personally, I cant see a Labour win having any redeeming features. Prime minister Starmer is a frightening prospect. Do you find the prospect of a Rishi Sunak win equally frightening?
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Post by Vinny on May 17, 2024 11:55:27 GMT
Quite frankly in my own case I'm not enthused by the idea of any party governing, so whoever wins, I'll take it on the chin and then look at their policies with disdain and grumble to whoever is my MP.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 17, 2024 11:57:40 GMT
Personally, I cant see a Labour win having any redeeming features. Prime minister Starmer is a frightening prospect. Do you find the prospect of a Rishi Sunak win equally frightening? No, of course not. In the unlikely event of a Tory win my biggest criticism of Sunak would be the fact that he is not Conservative enough, but that doesn't frighten me, it pisses me off.
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Post by jonksy on May 17, 2024 12:22:09 GMT
Do you find the prospect of a Rishi Sunak win equally frightening? No, of course not. In the unlikely event of a Tory win my biggest criticism of Sunak would be the fact that he is not Conservative enough, but that doesn't frighten me, it pisses me off. Can't see the lib dems doing much apart from their usual whinging and whinining....Best they join the SNATS as they are also a non entity...
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Post by johnofgwent on May 17, 2024 14:17:46 GMT
Is that it will see the end, finally, of that shiny faced as shole, David Cameron. Don't be so sure. Just as Mandelson said he was quite willing to serve in a Tory Government ...
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 17, 2024 22:27:50 GMT
Is that it will see the end, finally, of that shiny faced as shole, David Cameron. Another plus will be for those who vote for the first time and do not know what a shit show it is under labour...They will soon regret their choice. If I were Starmer and I were a top lawyer like he likes to think himself as, then I would prosecute the covid corruption and hang a few heads. That's about the best thing I see Starmer fit to do that would actually benefit the country. One thing this country needs more than anything is to eliminate corruption. Oddly enough right now it is more important than the economy, and that is because you can not do capitalism in a corrupt system. Corruption is like a cancer for the economic well-being of the country. Leaders that have clamped down have seen big gains in economic performance as business partners can trust the system. No trust = take your business elsewhere. Mind you sods law says something like those corrupt people might have brown and black faces that make it politically difficult on the Left.
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Post by sheepy on May 17, 2024 22:33:59 GMT
No it won't he will take his seat in the Lords, no getting rid of call me Dave.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 17, 2024 22:53:31 GMT
zIf I were Starmer and I were a top lawyer like he likes to think himself as... Top lawyer? 😂 The dull twunt couldn't prosecute Jimmy Savile.
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Post by vlk on May 17, 2024 23:47:45 GMT
In a two party-system when a cycle comes to an end and tweedledee replaces tweedledum there's always a short period of optimism that things could actually change but people become disappointed very soon. However, as people have short memories when the cycle changes the next time there's again a sense of brief optimism.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 18, 2024 0:30:55 GMT
In a two party-system when a cycle comes to an end and tweedledee replaces tweedledum there's always a short period of optimism that things could actually change but people become disappointed very soon. However, as people have short memories when the cycle changes the next time there's again a sense of brief optimism. These days I agree. Since 2010 the Tories have been moving to the centre and with the disaster that was Corbyn Labour realised, as Blair did, that to stand any chance of electoral success Labour must move to the centre which has resulted in two centrist parties, which in turn will result in voter apathy. Unless, yes there is a glimmer of hope, it's not much but you never know. Sunak who we all know is a liberal globalist, is in the dying days of his premiership becoming a Conservative. Not because he wants to, but because he knows it's what Conservative voters want. Too little too late? Probably, but hey, who knows.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 18, 2024 3:11:11 GMT
zIf I were Starmer and I were a top lawyer like he likes to think himself as... Top lawyer? 😂 The dull twunt couldn't prosecute Jimmy Savile. Yes I must admit he does not come across as a top lawyer. Everything he says he is going to do, he also says the opposite. I suppose that would be a bit like him doing a case and being both prosecution and defence. I wonder how he survives.
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