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Post by Pacifico on Mar 30, 2024 22:24:26 GMT
Thats a bit of a blow as Wales is the blueprint for a Starmer Government...  "A Welsh Labour government is the living proof of what Labour in power looks like, how things can be done differently and better. You demonstrate daily the difference Labour really makes. A blueprint for what Labour can do across the UK."
Keir Starmer... Only a stupid individual would think that Starmer was referring to todays Welsh NHS. Care to put a date on when IF Starmer made that comment AND the context in which he would have made such a comment? He made it 2 years ago at the Welsh Labour conference - what exactly do you think has changed in the past 2 years? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 30, 2024 22:58:40 GMT
Since being split off in in 1999 not a single metric concerned with NHS treatment has been better in Wales. The Welsh Assembly were so pissed off with ambulance call out times in particular being missed they changed the targets to ones where failure was only marked as such when the neighbours moaned about the stench of decomposition to the council before the ambulance crew got there so they could then boast they met their target if 95% attendance A geriatric was left with a fractured hip on the floor for a number of hours eventually being taken to the hospital in a builders van strapped to a plank. He died of injuries exacerbated by the transport. In my own case my wife choked to the point of no pulse no breathing having fallen down the stairs and my daughter who resuscitated her foolishly told the 999 handler she had succeeded in clearing the airway so they stood the ambulance down and left her lying in half a pint of her blood and would have left her there for six hours. I risked paralysing her taking her with a face and neck injury to A&E in the car without a back brace. No one will process my complaint, citing 'data privacy' issues. My wife cringes at the memory and won't ursue a complaint herself This is the NHS Wales I have been aware for some time that Welsh NHS is in a bad way. That seems sad to me because IIRC the idea of a NHS springs from the self help organisations that existed in Wales before the NHS existed. The idea is good so what went wrong? Is it mostly to do with Wales loss of financial income as a country? I don't really understand how it went downhill Part of it is simply incompetence. The Zambian given the job of health minister by a Corbyn admirer who stated categorically diversity was the driving force behind his cabinet himself admitted the job was beyond him. We did not have COVID tests because Plaid refused to allow them until Welsh instruction leaflets were available. Part of it is simply greed. The chap in charge of the trust at UHW was the head of the company given the car parking contract. Unsurprisingly when the decision to scrap car parking charges across Wales was brought in, UHW Cardiff was the only hospital where the decision was ignored, to keep the money flowing into the corrupt shitbag raking it in Part was a total lack of oversight. I waited for four years for a cataract operation because for two years my files and a thousand others stacked up in the in tray of a surgeon who fucked off to Africa and nobody knew he had gone. There was no communication. Blair's Devolution split the united kingdom's NHS into four NHS's. My youngest has a peanut allergy leaving her at risk of anaphylaxis and a systemic chronic pain problem from injury in a 2010 car smash. She moved to England Her Welsh GP submitted her records to the transfer authority, and deleted his copy The transfer authority claim they sent the records to her English GP, and deleted them The English GP never got them Each party blames the other, but now there is no hope of recovery |
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Post by bancroft on Mar 31, 2024 10:40:34 GMT
I have been aware for some time that Welsh NHS is in a bad way. That seems sad to me because IIRC the idea of a NHS springs from the self help organisations that existed in Wales before the NHS existed. The idea is good so what went wrong? Is it mostly to do with Wales loss of financial income as a country? I don't really understand how it went downhill Part of it is simply incompetence. The Zambian given the job of health minister by a Corbyn admirer who stated categorically diversity was the driving force behind his cabinet himself admitted the job was beyond him. We did not have COVID tests because Plaid refused to allow them until Welsh instruction leaflets were available. Part of it is simply greed. The chap in charge of the trust at UHW was the head of the company given the car parking contract. Unsurprisingly when the decision to scrap car parking charges across Wales was brought in, UHW Cardiff was the only hospital where the decision was ignored, to keep the money flowing into the corrupt shitbag raking it in Part was a total lack of oversight. I waited for four years for a cataract operation because for two years my files and a thousand others stacked up in the in tray of a surgeon who fucked off to Africa and nobody knew he had gone. There was no communication. Blair's Devolution split the united kingdom's NHS into four NHS's. My youngest has a peanut allergy leaving her at risk of anaphylaxis and a systemic chronic pain problem from injury in a 2010 car smash. She moved to England Her Welsh GP submitted her records to the transfer authority, and deleted his copy The transfer authority claim they sent the records to her English GP, and deleted them The English GP never got them Each party blames the other, but now there is no hope of recovery Was your youngest breast fed? |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 31, 2024 10:57:29 GMT
I don't really understand how it went downhill Part of it is simply incompetence. The Zambian given the job of health minister by a Corbyn admirer who stated categorically diversity was the driving force behind his cabinet himself admitted the job was beyond him. We did not have COVID tests because Plaid refused to allow them until Welsh instruction leaflets were available. Part of it is simply greed. The chap in charge of the trust at UHW was the head of the company given the car parking contract. Unsurprisingly when the decision to scrap car parking charges across Wales was brought in, UHW Cardiff was the only hospital where the decision was ignored, to keep the money flowing into the corrupt shitbag raking it in Part was a total lack of oversight. I waited for four years for a cataract operation because for two years my files and a thousand others stacked up in the in tray of a surgeon who fucked off to Africa and nobody knew he had gone. There was no communication. Blair's Devolution split the united kingdom's NHS into four NHS's. My youngest has a peanut allergy leaving her at risk of anaphylaxis and a systemic chronic pain problem from injury in a 2010 car smash. She moved to England Her Welsh GP submitted her records to the transfer authority, and deleted his copy The transfer authority claim they sent the records to her English GP, and deleted them The English GP never got them Each party blames the other, but now there is no hope of recovery I was breastfed. As a child I had a skin-contact allergy with something is builder's sand, grew out of it by the time I was 12/13. I had Covid very badly in Feb/March 2020. Since then I am allergic to: gluten, soya, egg, all seafood, and non-digestible-fructans (which are present in all fruit and veg, depending on ripeness, and raw / cooked). My diet is restricted to to non-gluten carbs, meat, bananas (have to be slightly over-ripe), baked beans, carrots, a white cabbage (as long as it is boiled to hell and back 1970's style), tomato puree (can't have any tomato skin at all), tinned pears (not fresh). There are days I would kill just to be able to eat a normal salad. All The Best |
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Post by bancroft on Mar 31, 2024 11:16:07 GMT
ProVeritasI struggle with salads unless I eat loads of meat and enough beforehand. Had IBS since the age of 14 after an injury. Studied a lot of things eventually after feeling more unwell following holiday vaccs to Turkey in the mid-90s. That was the turning point I decided doctors were drug jockeys and time to get educated on natural and alternative health. Got rid of infections from the vaccine(s), got a back injury fixed giving me hypertension and more things yet could not beat digestion except by fasting and taking a supplement and it was better for a while yet would always return. I'm lucky in that i have always done exercise though I need to be careful not to overdo it.
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 31, 2024 11:55:44 GMT
Was your youngest breast fed? yes, and this is the wierd bit, the elder, who was a "crying baby" wasn't and had none of the problems many others claimed were formula based
I consider David Icke to be the eighth wonder of the world, a messiah more powerful than any other sever dreamed of.
If you have ever heard the term "crying baby" as used by midwives etc you'll know why
Sarah was one of an exasperating minority of kinds who whinged when not being given attention 24/7/365 and managed to throve on barely an hour and a half sleep a night. After a year it was getting to the point that if i heard a kid had been picked up by the ankles and swung against a wall i woud have voted "not guilty" if on the jury. You had to have endured it to understand.
Then one night it all changed
Viv Richards led the west indies out to bat for a Kerry Packer Cricket Circus match played at dead of night under floodlights so as to be shown live at peak time in astralia or sonewhere, with a white ball and the team in fetching pink. Botham was leading the England team in dayglo yellow and i think it might even have been astroturg they were playing on.
The england team had a rather uncharacteristic spell of success dismissing Richards' stragglers in a very few overs indeed. And this meant an early tea interval, and cut to the anchor man at the studio .... David Icke
He seemed a little flustered and for a moment knew not what to say, staring into the camera searching for words
Sarah who had been ranting as usual in her playpen as i fought to nod off on the sofa, suddenly shut up and watched icke. fascinated.
And as he recovered his compusure and started commentating, she rolled sideways onto the pillow in the paypen and fell asleep and stayed asleep for eight hours.
I donlt know what he did, or how he dit it, but the man is a god among men
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Post by see2 on Mar 31, 2024 16:34:31 GMT
Only a stupid individual would think that Starmer was referring to todays Welsh NHS. Care to put a date on when IF Starmer made that comment AND the context in which he would have made such a comment? He made it 2 years ago at the Welsh Labour conference - what exactly do you think has changed in the past 2 years? Answer my question first i.e. context. I don't give a lot of credit to your posts because they are usually more about bias than essence, as with many of your posts context is most important. So you need to post the good thing mentioned by Starmer, not insinuate the worst about what is possibly the Welsh weakest point. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 31, 2024 16:42:02 GMT
He made it 2 years ago at the Welsh Labour conference - what exactly do you think has changed in the past 2 years? Answer my question first i.e. context. I don't give a lot of credit to your posts because they are usually more about bias than essence, as with many of your posts context is most important. So you need to post the good thing mentioned by Starmer, not insinuate the worst about what is possibly the Welsh weakest point. Starmer is only going to mention the good things in the Welsh NHS (if there is any).
We are just pointing out the bad things that Starmer wont mention.
I call that a balanced view, and weighing up the pros and cons the Welsh NHS is performing far worse than the English NHS, Starmer is stuck because he can't blame the Tories for the Labour mess.
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Post by see2 on Mar 31, 2024 16:56:15 GMT
Answer my question first i.e. context. I don't give a lot of credit to your posts because they are usually more about bias than essence, as with many of your posts context is most important. So you need to post the good thing mentioned by Starmer, not insinuate the worst about what is possibly the Welsh weakest point. Starmer is only going to mention the good things in the Welsh NHS (if there is any).
We are just pointing out the bad things that Starmer wont mention.
I call that a balanced view, and weighing up the pros and cons the Welsh NHS is performing far worse than the English NHS, Starmer is stuck because he can't blame the Tories for the Labour mess.
You have completely missed the point. The comment posted by Pacifico was clearly not about the state of the Welsh NHS. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 31, 2024 17:13:27 GMT
He made it 2 years ago at the Welsh Labour conference - what exactly do you think has changed in the past 2 years? Answer my question first i.e. context. I don't give a lot of credit to your posts because they are usually more about bias than essence, as with many of your posts context is most important. So you need to post the good thing mentioned by Starmer, not insinuate the worst about what is possibly the Welsh weakest point. Well, to bring the thread slightly back on topic www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-67019443Mr U Turn twice declines to confirm The Welsh Wankers are the way forward But as you will see, if you read the BBC post linked to, the BBC's enthusiasm to procure a statement comes directly from the fact he DIzd make that statement, at a Welsh Labour conference, at exactly the time Pacifico said he did. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 31, 2024 17:36:06 GMT
He made it 2 years ago at the Welsh Labour conference - what exactly do you think has changed in the past 2 years? Answer my question first i.e. context. I don't give a lot of credit to your posts because they are usually more about bias than essence, as with many of your posts context is most important. So you need to post the good thing mentioned by Starmer, not insinuate the worst about what is possibly the Welsh weakest point. If not the NHS what policy area in Wales is going to be the blueprint for the rest of the UK?. perhaps education?  |
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Post by ProVeritas on Mar 31, 2024 17:50:29 GMT
Answer my question first i.e. context. I don't give a lot of credit to your posts because they are usually more about bias than essence, as with many of your posts context is most important. So you need to post the good thing mentioned by Starmer, not insinuate the worst about what is possibly the Welsh weakest point. If not the NHS what policy area in Wales is going to be the blueprint for the rest of the UK?. perhaps education? So, lazy whataboutery to deflect from the fact you still can't answer the question put to you. All The Best |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 31, 2024 21:16:41 GMT
If not the NHS what policy area in Wales is going to be the blueprint for the rest of the UK?. perhaps education? So, lazy whataboutery to deflect from the fact you still can't answer the question put to you. All The Best If Welsh Labour is the blueprint as Starmer promised then we are well and truly fucked All the best |
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Post by see2 on Mar 31, 2024 21:51:42 GMT
Answer my question first i.e. context. I don't give a lot of credit to your posts because they are usually more about bias than essence, as with many of your posts context is most important. So you need to post the good thing mentioned by Starmer, not insinuate the worst about what is possibly the Welsh weakest point. If not the NHS what policy area in Wales is going to be the blueprint for the rest of the UK?. perhaps education? So you don't have the answer, you just grabbed something you could attack Starmer with. |
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Post by bancroft on Apr 1, 2024 10:48:13 GMT
Was your youngest breast fed? yes, and this is the wierd bit, the elder, who was a "crying baby" wasn't and had none of the problems many others claimed were formula based
I consider David Icke to be the eighth wonder of the world, a messiah more powerful than any other sever dreamed of.
If you have ever heard the term "crying baby" as used by midwives etc you'll know why
Sarah was one of an exasperating minority of kinds who whinged when not being given attention 24/7/365 and managed to throve on barely an hour and a half sleep a night. After a year it was getting to the point that if i heard a kid had been picked up by the ankles and swung against a wall i woud have voted "not guilty" if on the jury. You had to have endured it to understand.
Then one night it all changed
Viv Richards led the west indies out to bat for a Kerry Packer Cricket Circus match played at dead of night under floodlights so as to be shown live at peak time in astralia or sonewhere, with a white ball and the team in fetching pink. Botham was leading the England team in dayglo yellow and i think it might even have been astroturg they were playing on.
The england team had a rather uncharacteristic spell of success dismissing Richards' stragglers in a very few overs indeed. And this meant an early tea interval, and cut to the anchor man at the studio .... David Icke
He seemed a little flustered and for a moment knew not what to say, staring into the camera searching for words
Sarah who had been ranting as usual in her playpen as i fought to nod off on the sofa, suddenly shut up and watched icke. fascinated.
And as he recovered his compusure and started commentating, she rolled sideways onto the pillow in the paypen and fell asleep and stayed asleep for eight hours.
I donlt know what he did, or how he dit it, but the man is a god among men
Icke is an oddity yet TBF a lot of news anchors do get thrown if the camera comes to them unexpectedly. I think he has made some good points and many he has got wrong too. I never been to one of his speeches though many have so I have been told. The surprising thing is he has lasted. When I brought my 2.5 year daughter over from NZ for two weeks she missed her Mum and then I noticed the 1939 Wizard of Oz on tv so put that on with the Munchkins and evil apes and she sat spell bound for 2 hours ans said at the end, 'Dadda, Dorothy went home.' |
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