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Post by patman post on Mar 31, 2024 14:34:03 GMT
Do you know why they do this? Have a little think what is going on here on both sides. Think how it is in our country where the schools indoctrinate five year olds with bullshit about people changing sex. Then they have these operations which destroy their reproductive systems.
I support the position the Chinese government take and it is yet another confirmation to me that they are the good guys and these shysters are the ones who need to be stopped.
Are you sure this is your Chinese woman’s view — or is what you think she’s whispering in your ear just a small leak…? |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 31, 2024 15:19:25 GMT
I was thinking more about the right of people to call those who govern them twats, without being locked up for it.
You can criticise our government and influence change.
You can even stand for Parliament yourself.
If China's dictatorship wants to force anything on kids anyone who speaks out goes to prison.
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 3, 2024 9:45:18 GMT
It's laughable to try and compare our democratic country to Russia, China or North Korea. I’m not so sure Yes you can protest (a bit, out of sight). You can vote (in a rigged election) and you can stand (and waste £500) But in essence the UK takes as much notice of the will of the people as the chinese do. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 3, 2024 11:07:52 GMT
I've taken part in vote counts, I didn't see any cheating taking place.
I took part in the 1997 count when Blair got in for the first time.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 4, 2024 22:02:29 GMT
Brexit Britain VICTORY heralded by Liam Halligan as key sector handed boost Brexit Britain is ‘leading the way’ in Europe’s manufacturing recovery, according to GB News Economics and Business Editor Liam Halligan.But he erred on the side of caution as while UK manufacturing has returned to growth for the first time since July 2022, Halligan believes ‘we are not out of the woods yet’.
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Post by patman post on Apr 5, 2024 14:12:04 GMT
It's laughable to try and compare our democratic country to Russia, China or North Korea. I’m not so sure Yes you can protest (a bit, out of sight). You can vote (in a rigged election) and you can stand (and waste £500) But in essence the UK takes as much notice of the will of the people as the chinese do. Can you back that claim up?
As far as I can see in the UK, remain in the Common Market, and leaving the EU — some 40 years apart — were decided by the people being able to vote on the issues; local councillors and MP's are regularly voted in or out; and voters don't get penalised and or arrested for voting for the wrong political party...
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 5, 2024 21:11:42 GMT
I’m not so sure Yes you can protest (a bit, out of sight). You can vote (in a rigged election) and you can stand (and waste £500) But in essence the UK takes as much notice of the will of the people as the chinese do. Can you back that claim up?
As far as I can see in the UK, remain in the Common Market, and leaving the EU — some 40 years apart — were decided by the people being able to vote on the issues; local councillors and MP's are regularly voted in or out; and voters don't get penalised and or arrested for voting for the wrong political party...
Well you can start with the 20mph bollox for a start |
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Post by patman post on Apr 6, 2024 23:23:30 GMT
Can you back that claim up?
As far as I can see in the UK, remain in the Common Market, and leaving the EU — some 40 years apart — were decided by the people being able to vote on the issues; local councillors and MP's are regularly voted in or out; and voters don't get penalised and or arrested for voting for the wrong political party...
Well you can start with the 20mph bollox for a start The blanket imposition of 20mph needs substantial tweaking, but I bet it will have majority backing of most urban dwellers. What’s more difficult to understand is the arbitrary blocking of roads to motor vehicles, by some London boroughs, and forcing even local traffic to make circuitous 10-15 minute journeys of extra miles through places like C, D, and E to go what used to be a journey of a couple minutes from A to B… |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 6, 2024 23:28:51 GMT
I’m not so sure Yes you can protest (a bit, out of sight). You can vote (in a rigged election) and you can stand (and waste £500) But in essence the UK takes as much notice of the will of the people as the chinese do. Can you back that claim up?
As far as I can see in the UK, remain in the Common Market, and leaving the EU — some 40 years apart — were decided by the people being able to vote on the issues; local councillors and MP's are regularly voted in or out; and voters don't get penalised and or arrested for voting for the wrong political party...
No Pat you're wrong. The UK left the EU single market in 2020. |
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Post by patman post on Apr 6, 2024 23:50:04 GMT
Can you back that claim up?
As far as I can see in the UK, remain in the Common Market, and leaving the EU — some 40 years apart — were decided by the people being able to vote on the issues; local councillors and MP's are regularly voted in or out; and voters don't get penalised and or arrested for voting for the wrong political party...
No Pat you're wrong. The UK left the EU single market in 2020. OK, votes in 1973 and 2016 were 43 years apart. Does adding your four years to enact the Brexit referendum’s oven ready deal make me an absolute liar…? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 6, 2024 23:54:32 GMT
No Pat you're wrong. The UK left the EU single market in 2020. OK, votes in 1973 and 2016 were 43 years apart. Does adding your four years to enact the Brexit referendum’s oven ready deal make me an absolute liar…? 1973 vote? |
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Post by patman post on Apr 7, 2024 0:05:19 GMT
OK, votes in 1973 and 2016 were 43 years apart. Does adding your four years to enact the Brexit referendum’s oven ready deal make me an absolute liar…? 1973 vote? OK, 1975.. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 7, 2024 0:17:03 GMT
LOLS apologies, that was me being a pedant. Thing is, the 1975 referendum was very different to the 2016 referendum. The former asked us if we wanted to remain in the Common Market (EEC) in which the majority said yes. The later asked us if we wanted to leave the EEC which by that time (1992 in our case) had morphed into the EU, in which the majority said yes. |
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Post by patman post on Apr 7, 2024 0:19:39 GMT
LOLS apologies, that was me being a pedant. Thing is, the 1975 referendum was very different to the 2016 referendum. The former asked us if we wanted to remain in the Common Market (EEC) in which the majority said yes. The later asked us if we wanted to leave the EEC which by that time (1992 in our case) had morphed into the EU, in which the majority said yes. Both decided by voters — which I think was clearly my point… |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 7, 2024 0:42:56 GMT
LOLS apologies, that was me being a pedant. Thing is, the 1975 referendum was very different to the 2016 referendum. The former asked us if we wanted to remain in the Common Market (EEC) in which the majority said yes. The later asked us if we wanted to leave the EEC which by that time (1992 in our case) had morphed into the EU, in which the majority said yes. Both decided by voters — which I think was clearly my point… The 1975 referendum was indeed accepted by government because it was the result the government wanted. The 2016 referendum was certainly not accepted by government which is why it took four years before the UK actually left the EU. And even though we eventually left, you know very well that Starmer our next prime minister was a manic remainer who faught tooth & nail to overturn the referendum result and has said he will have a 'closer' relationship with the EU. Democracy, don't make me LOL. |
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