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Post by Bentley on Mar 27, 2024 15:03:36 GMT
Which brings me back to my oft repeated and often ignored ( by ex remainers ) point that the polls that claim there is a majority to re join the EU does not address the terms of re joining.
Ex remainers , who like to go on and on about how the leave dishonest the leave campaign was are being just as dishonest in ignoring that the terms are never considered.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 27, 2024 15:48:31 GMT
Exactly, there wouldn't be a rebate.
We'd have to join Schengen.
We'd have to join the ERM and the Euro.
We'd have to rejoin the customs union and tear up our FTAs.
Our small scale fishermen would go back to only being allocated 4% of the fishing quota whilst ridiculous super trawlers would get 96% of the quota.
We'd have to go back to allowing every unskilled labourer in the European Union into our country, even if they had no means to support themselves and would end up homeless in months.
I don't think we'll ever rejoin, unless the thing is monumentally reformed.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 29, 2024 7:11:00 GMT
The EUSSR are missing us already, after inflicting a humiliating and procrastinated withdrawal by the UK. Our exit was made as difficult as possible, and only a one sided deal was achieved. Now the EUSSR wants our money again and our military resources. A lot of whom truths are surfacing. The EUSSR has become so wrapped up in itself that it neglected external and internal threats. It seems that only it's own citizens have responded to the plethora of national security risks and state naivete. Since leaving the EUSSR, the UK has thrown away a number of the benefits that came with being part of the world’s largest trading bloc. Gone are the days of visa-free travel, Erasmus students studying in other countries, and easy trade between close partners. Instead, there are long queues at passport control, backed-up lorries at ports, and growing mistrust between the Conservative party, entirely in thrall to the Brexiteers within its ranks, and European capitals.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 30, 2024 2:40:34 GMT
EUSSR growth has 'stagnated' under Ursula von der Leyen as election win in doubt.... As the EUSSR prepares for its forthcoming parliamentary elections in June, the spotlight is once again on Ursula von der Leyen's bid for a second term as the President of the European Commission. However, amid her reelection campaign, questions loom over her management of the EUSSR's economy during her current tenure.
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 30, 2024 9:23:05 GMT
Remoaners…Brexit is a failure because we can buy cheaper beef …. lol. Australian beef is not cheaper. There is just a hell of a lot more of it because Lettuce Liz agreed to it. I thought Brexit meant that the UK could make its own decisions. Well that one was a very valuable damp squib. It isnt enough to make your own decisions. You have to know what you are doing. There is not a lot more of it, it is restricted by quotas and Australia's biggest meat export market is China! It can't produce enough meat to flood China, never mind Britain for crying out loud. In fact, Australian beef still has 12% tarifs on it for another 11 years thanks to the illiberal FTA our government conjured up, and that's why it isn't cheaper. In fact, once all the tariffs and quotas and other "safeguard" measures are removed from Australian meat which will be 15 years from now! Then and only then can the British consumers pay the same price for Aussie meat as they currently do for Irish! You do have to know what you are doing. You also need to know what you're talking about. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 30, 2024 10:33:47 GMT
Our beef is subsidised, Australian beef is not.
The idea that subsidised farmers will be put out of business by unsubsidised farmers, is bollocks.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 30, 2024 12:05:45 GMT
Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. If the housewife in Tesco's does not want to buy cheaper meat then she doesn't have to - there is no shortage of more expensive alternatives. Are you deliberately missing the point? This isnt about the housewife, though you need reminding that many men use supermarkets too. It is about the gross inequality worth billions of pounds you have signed away in a celebrated trade deal represented on your side by a lettuce. Brexit promised new improved trade deals contributing to a new world of British power in the global marketplace. It used to export beef to Australia when in the EU. Now it cant...and has opened its legs to billions of pounds worth of imports it didnt used to have to take. A Brexit bonus for Australia, as well as the pollution cost of hauling animal meat half way around the world. And no, it isnt cheaper than British beef. No one can justify that trade deal unless you cant face admitting the folly you created. A technology collaboration deal with China is probably a fruitful way to go, so we can ramp up the quality of our science so we boost industry that way. The Aussies are backwards hilly billy types. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 30, 2024 12:16:04 GMT
Are you deliberately missing the point? This isnt about the housewife, though you need reminding that many men use supermarkets too. It is about the gross inequality worth billions of pounds you have signed away in a celebrated trade deal represented on your side by a lettuce. Brexit promised new improved trade deals contributing to a new world of British power in the global marketplace. It used to export beef to Australia when in the EU. Now it cant...and has opened its legs to billions of pounds worth of imports it didnt used to have to take. A Brexit bonus for Australia, as well as the pollution cost of hauling animal meat half way around the world. And no, it isnt cheaper than British beef. No one can justify that trade deal unless you cant face admitting the folly you created. A technology collaboration deal with China is probably a fruitful way to go. Fuck that. Down with dictatorships. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 30, 2024 12:20:38 GMT
A technology collaboration deal with China is probably a fruitful way to go. Fuck that. Down with dictatorships. If you behave like that you would end up very poor and probably become a beggar. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 30, 2024 12:32:51 GMT
I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
Fuck dictatorships.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 30, 2024 20:46:24 GMT
I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees. Fuck dictatorships. Well the trouble is we live in one. When was the last time they took notice of what the people of the UK want. I'm not even talking about what Farage wants. I mean what ordinary citizens want.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 31, 2024 12:14:32 GMT
It's laughable to try and compare our democratic country to Russia, China or North Korea.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 31, 2024 12:17:42 GMT
It's laughable to try and compare our democratic country to Russia, China or North Korea. Well you carry on laughing like a fool and they will screw us right here. Distraction serves a purpose.
Soviet tactic: soviet union is wonderful, but outside there is dire poverty and decay.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 31, 2024 12:23:37 GMT
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 31, 2024 14:07:01 GMT
Do you know why they do this? Have a little think what is going on here on both sides. Think how it is in our country where the schools indoctrinate five year olds with bullshit about people changing sex. Then they have these operations which destroy their reproductive systems.
I support the position the Chinese government take and it is yet another confirmation to me that they are the good guys and these shysters are the ones who need to be stopped.
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