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Post by oracle75 on Nov 13, 2022 17:26:34 GMT
If you could go to the World Cup in Qatar, would you go, considering the issues around human rights?
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 13, 2022 18:20:29 GMT
Why not? - lots of countries have issues with human rights but we still go there.
..and I quite liked Doha..
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 15, 2022 8:04:07 GMT
My main problem with going to Qatar is that it's very difficult to get a drink and in the few places you can get a drink it costs a fortune. Like most muslim countries. I don't care about their so-called "'uman rights". They're entitled to enforce any daft laws they like in their own country. Remember homosexuality was illegal in the UK until 1965 (IIRC) and offenders were routinely offered the choice of jail or chemical castration.
And they're entitled to enforce their own laws on visitors. I just wish the UK would enforce OUR laws on the muslims - instead of bending over backwards to excuse/accommodate their behaviour.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 15, 2022 9:31:24 GMT
You mean Grooming gang's etc
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 15, 2022 9:39:09 GMT
They're exempt from the ban on corporal punishment in their "religious" schools. They're exempt from the rules around slaughter of animals. They're exempt from sex discrimination laws. They also seem to be exempt from laws of CSE and threatening people who "disrespect" the prophet - at least the police seem to do SFA about these offences.
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Post by vlk on Nov 15, 2022 23:08:42 GMT
Hopefully FIFA has learnt its lesson on whom to give these tournaments.
First Russia though there was the Crimea issue already then and now Qatar.
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Post by Steve on Nov 15, 2022 23:19:13 GMT
If you could go to the World Cup in Qatar, would you go, considering the issues around human rights? No
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Post by dappy on Nov 15, 2022 23:56:31 GMT
No sign at all that FIFA is learning its lesson I’m afraid. The 2026 World Cup will largely be held in a country where racism thrives, where abortion is increasingly banned, where state murder continues to be prevalent and is so politically unstable that there was a coup attempt less than two years and where the guy leading that coup attempt may well be president by the time of the World Cup. Shocking.
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Post by Handyman on Nov 16, 2022 11:59:44 GMT
I would not go for one reason I don't follow football, even though I want England to win, lay odds some fans will end up in the Clink for being daft
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Post by vlk on Nov 18, 2022 23:21:34 GMT
Qatar had a chance to show how it is a normal country even though it is an Arab-country.
They blew it before the tournament has even begun by banning alcohol in the stadiums.
Their country their rules but the thing is that was against what had been previously agreed upon.
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 19, 2022 0:02:43 GMT
Why not? - lots of countries have issues with human rights but we still go there. ..and I quite liked Doha.. You do know that lots of those people who keep turning up in dinghies uninvited come from places like Qatar, don't you, Doc? You lot call the footballers who are standing up for gay rights in those places woke, then whinge when their gay citizens have to flee over here. If you want to stop the dinghies, stop supporting the regimes responsible for them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2022 5:38:09 GMT
Cannot afford to go but would not go, I will not be watching any of the games.
FIFA are a corrupt organisation and whilst Qatar is perfectly within its rights to make and interpret their laws as the wish, they are a corrupt and oppressive state.
England should have boycotted it.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 19, 2022 8:19:54 GMT
Why not? - lots of countries have issues with human rights but we still go there. ..and I quite liked Doha.. You do know that lots of those people who keep turning up in dinghies uninvited come from places like Qatar, don't you, Doc? You lot call the footballers who are standing up for gay rights in those places woke, then whinge when their gay citizens have to flee over here. If you want to stop the dinghies, stop supporting the regimes responsible for them. oh dont talk bollocks - no Qatari is going to get in a dinghy and turn up here.. Qatar is one of the richest countries on the planet. Fool.
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Post by Einhorn on Nov 19, 2022 9:49:08 GMT
You do know that lots of those people who keep turning up in dinghies uninvited come from places like Qatar, don't you, Doc? You lot call the footballers who are standing up for gay rights in those places woke, then whinge when their gay citizens have to flee over here. If you want to stop the dinghies, stop supporting the regimes responsible for them. oh dont talk bollocks - no Qatari is going to get in a dinghy and turn up here.. Qatar is one of the richest countries on the planet. Fool. If they face imprisonment in Qatar for being themselves, of course they're going to flee. And it's not just about sending a message to Qatar, it's about sending a message to that part of the world that human rights belong to everyone. I'll say it again: stop encouraging human rights abuses, and then whining when people show up in dinghies.
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Post by vlk on Nov 19, 2022 18:29:39 GMT
Without this world cup we would know a lot less about the situation in Qatar. What other countries are like Qatar? UAE? Isn't Kuwait also a country where foreign slaves do all the work while the rich sheiks swim in luxury? Nominal GDP per capita at the level of Switzerland but the vast majority of the population being foreign workers and living in squalor.
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