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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 21, 2024 14:10:05 GMT
There is only really one thing you got to know about that place. It was losing £1 million/day. Think about that with your business hat on. Well think about it with your defence hat on for a moment. Think of it with your ‘we need to build weaponry capable of withstanding a battlefield’ hat on. I'm convinced fighting will be the only industry left in this country. Many third world African countries are like this. Any money they get, they buy guns with it whilst there is a god almighty famine in progress.
Anyway, you are right. This is why the government is putting our tax money into it. That's another half a billion.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 21, 2024 14:26:12 GMT
Well think about it with your defence hat on for a moment. Think of it with your ‘we need to build weaponry capable of withstanding a battlefield’ hat on. I'm convinced fighting will be the only industry left in this country. Many third world African countries are like this. Any money they get, they buy guns with it whilst there is a god almighty famine in progress.
Anyway, you are right. This is why the government is putting our tax money into it. That's another half a billion.
I’m not remotely convinced the ability to defend ourselves will be possible in maybe five years time. But i do think warmongering will be one of the few global growth industries …. As it always was |
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Post by Dogburger on Jan 21, 2024 14:44:18 GMT
I'm convinced fighting will be the only industry left in this country. Many third world African countries are like this. Any money they get, they buy guns with it whilst there is a god almighty famine in progress.
Anyway, you are right. This is why the government is putting our tax money into it. That's another half a billion.
I’m not remotely convinced the ability to defend ourselves will be possible in maybe five years time. But i do think warmongering will be one of the few global growth industries …. As it always was Well at least we wont have to worry about escalating any conflicts through tit for tat , we will just go straight to Nukes |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 21, 2024 15:11:10 GMT
I’m not remotely convinced the ability to defend ourselves will be possible in maybe five years time. But i do think warmongering will be one of the few global growth industries …. As it always was Well at least we wont have to worry about escalating any conflicts through tit for tat , we will just go straight to Nukes i rather suspect someone else will do it for us |
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Post by see2 on Jan 21, 2024 16:05:11 GMT
Net Zero is a Law imposed by a Conservative government So you keep saying The problem with that is those of us with longer memories recall a prick by tbe name of Tony Blair committing the UK to a green revolution. Here’s what he had to say in 2001 about his belief that eighty five per cent of the UK’s energy needs could come from solar power, in spite of the party being told the reality of insolation capture back in 1979 by research i was personally paid to be one of the scientists responsible for collecting the facts for them through the then Science, now Science and Engineering, Research Council funded departmental study. amp.theguardian.com/politics/2001/mar/07/uk.ethicallivingThose of similar memory spans will ALSO remember the outpouring of horror at Blair’s utter fuckup at one of the early COPs where he committed the UK to a path about twenty times more severe than his speech writers told him to commit us to by changing tbe words to make himself look good So while it may be the case that limp wristed ass holes who happen to stand under the insignia of a once properly Tory Party signed us up to the mantras of Saint Greta The Uneducated, which Fishy Rishi has since realised will cost him his comfy job and is now too late trying to back pedal from, the FACT is the person who PUT us in this shit is TONY BLAIR and his replacement today is hell bent on keeping on down that path. If Blair was talking about Green Energy back in 2001, that shows a great deal of insight. Imagine how far ahead of everyone else the UK would now be, if he had steamed ahead with his understanding. If Blair put us 'in this shit', can you show any UK Green Law introduced by Blair? And any Green Taxes on industry introduced by Blair? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 21, 2024 16:09:42 GMT
So you keep saying The problem with that is those of us with longer memories recall a prick by tbe name of Tony Blair committing the UK to a green revolution. Here’s what he had to say in 2001 about his belief that eighty five per cent of the UK’s energy needs could come from solar power, in spite of the party being told the reality of insolation capture back in 1979 by research i was personally paid to be one of the scientists responsible for collecting the facts for them through the then Science, now Science and Engineering, Research Council funded departmental study. amp.theguardian.com/politics/2001/mar/07/uk.ethicallivingThose of similar memory spans will ALSO remember the outpouring of horror at Blair’s utter fuckup at one of the early COPs where he committed the UK to a path about twenty times more severe than his speech writers told him to commit us to by changing tbe words to make himself look good So while it may be the case that limp wristed ass holes who happen to stand under the insignia of a once properly Tory Party signed us up to the mantras of Saint Greta The Uneducated, which Fishy Rishi has since realised will cost him his comfy job and is now too late trying to back pedal from, the FACT is the person who PUT us in this shit is TONY BLAIR and his replacement today is hell bent on keeping on down that path. If Blair was talking about Green Energy back in 2001, that shows a great deal of insight. Imagine how far ahead of everyone else the UK would now be, if he had steamed ahead with his understanding. If Blair put us 'in this shit', can you show any UK Green Law introduced by Blair? And any Green Taxes on industry introduced by Blair? so you didn’t bother reading his antics at that EU summit then. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 21, 2024 16:19:54 GMT
If Blair was talking about Green Energy back in 2001, that shows a great deal of insight. Imagine how far ahead of everyone else the UK would now be, if he had steamed ahead with his understanding. If Blair put us 'in this shit', can you show any UK Green Law introduced by Blair? And any Green Taxes on industry introduced by Blair? so you didn’t bother reading his antics at that EU summit then. No, I just went straight to the point, assuming you already had the answers. But if you insist I will. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 21, 2024 17:20:03 GMT
So you keep saying The problem with that is those of us with longer memories recall a prick by tbe name of Tony Blair committing the UK to a green revolution. Here’s what he had to say in 2001 about his belief that eighty five per cent of the UK’s energy needs could come from solar power, in spite of the party being told the reality of insolation capture back in 1979 by research i was personally paid to be one of the scientists responsible for collecting the facts for them through the then Science, now Science and Engineering, Research Council funded departmental study. amp.theguardian.com/politics/2001/mar/07/uk.ethicallivingThose of similar memory spans will ALSO remember the outpouring of horror at Blair’s utter fuckup at one of the early COPs where he committed the UK to a path about twenty times more severe than his speech writers told him to commit us to by changing tbe words to make himself look good So while it may be the case that limp wristed ass holes who happen to stand under the insignia of a once properly Tory Party signed us up to the mantras of Saint Greta The Uneducated, which Fishy Rishi has since realised will cost him his comfy job and is now too late trying to back pedal from, the FACT is the person who PUT us in this shit is TONY BLAIR and his replacement today is hell bent on keeping on down that path. If Blair was talking about Green Energy back in 2001, that shows a great deal of insight. Imagine how far ahead of everyone else the UK would now be, if he had steamed ahead with his understanding. If Blair put us 'in this shit', can you show any UK Green Law introduced by Blair? And any Green Taxes on industry introduced by Blair? Blair insight? You must be jesting and have not read the article linked ? Copycat more like He merely channelled Mrs Thatcher's insight from 12 years previous In a wide ranging, sometimes passionate, speech that recalled Margaret Thatcher's awakening to green issues in 1989,
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 21, 2024 17:33:37 GMT
If Blair was talking about Green Energy back in 2001, that shows a great deal of insight. Imagine how far ahead of everyone else the UK would now be, if he had steamed ahead with his understanding. If Blair put us 'in this shit', can you show any UK Green Law introduced by Blair? And any Green Taxes on industry introduced by Blair? Blair insight? You must be jesting and have not read the article linked ? Copycat more like He merely channelled Mrs Thatcher's insight from 12 years previous In a wide ranging, sometimes passionate, speech that recalled Margaret Thatcher's awakening to green issues in 1989,
Too true. They all seem to get this calling from on high.
Starmer will subsequently get his ideas from the same spiritual place as Rishi does.
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Post by see2 on Jan 22, 2024 0:32:35 GMT
If Blair was talking about Green Energy back in 2001, that shows a great deal of insight. Imagine how far ahead of everyone else the UK would now be, if he had steamed ahead with his understanding. If Blair put us 'in this shit', can you show any UK Green Law introduced by Blair? And any Green Taxes on industry introduced by Blair? Blair insight? You must be jesting and have not read the article linked ? Copycat more like He merely channelled Mrs Thatcher's insight from 12 years previous In a wide ranging, sometimes passionate, speech that recalled Margaret Thatcher's awakening to green issues in 1989,
Thatcher may have mentioned Green Energy but she did nothing for Green Energy. Her main concern was climate change and Nuclear Energy, she favoured building one Nuclear Energy Plant per year at one stage. --"It’s hard to see whether diversity of energy supply even figured in ’80s Tory energy policy; Thatcher was a strong proponent of nuclear power, proposing early in her premiership to build a nuclear station every year for ten years; but in the event, only one was built, Sizewell B. The other big nuclear project of the Thatcher years, the Thermal Oxide Reprocessing Plant (THORP) at Sellafield, was actually started under the previous Labour government, and wasn’t completed until the Labour party regained power."-- Action on Green Energy was left to Blair and New Labour. So I will ignore your claims with the contempt they deserve. www.theengineer.co.uk/content/opinion/energy-and-thatcher-a-tangled-legacy/Green Energy was well advanced in a number of countries by the late 1800s and early 1900s |
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Post by see2 on Jan 22, 2024 0:43:05 GMT
Blair insight? You must be jesting and have not read the article linked ? Copycat more like He merely channelled Mrs Thatcher's insight from 12 years previous In a wide ranging, sometimes passionate, speech that recalled Margaret Thatcher's awakening to green issues in 1989,
Too true. They all seem to get this calling from on high.
Starmer will subsequently get his ideas from the same spiritual place as Rishi does.
I think Starmer is more likely to be influenced by New Labour than by the spiritual place visited by Rushi. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 22, 2024 1:54:51 GMT
Too true. They all seem to get this calling from on high.
Starmer will subsequently get his ideas from the same spiritual place as Rishi does.
I think Starmer is more likely to be influenced by New Labour than by the spiritual place visited by Rushi. Rishi has similar kind of high level connections as did Blair, e.g. Goldman Sachs and something called the Children's Investment Fund (Chris Hohn)
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Post by see2 on Jan 22, 2024 9:32:45 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 22, 2024 11:03:47 GMT
Of course its not only the UK - Net Zero policies are devastating industrial production across the EU. Indeed, which is why BASF the biggest chemical company in the world are moving operations from Europe to China. CEO Martin Brudemuller cited high [Green] energy costs in Europe. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 23, 2024 10:59:11 GMT
I'm convinced fighting will be the only industry left in this country. Many third world African countries are like this. Any money they get, they buy guns with it whilst there is a god almighty famine in progress.
Anyway, you are right. This is why the government is putting our tax money into it. That's another half a billion.
I’m not remotely convinced the ability to defend ourselves will be possible in maybe five years time. But i do think warmongering will be one of the few global growth industries …. As it always was My understanding of the privatisation of steel in the UK left specialist steel manufacturing still in the hands of privately owned steel making companies. "British Steel (2016) britishsteel.co.uk › who-we-are › where-weve-c... British Steel's headquarters are in Scunthorpe and we have rolling mills in Teesside and Skinningrove in the UK and in Alblasserdam in the Netherlands. |
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