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Post by jonksy on Jan 15, 2024 7:28:11 GMT
Ed Davey is 'the poster boy' ... for the most far left liberal snowflake, virtue signalling, woke, diverse figure head we will ever have the misfortune to be head of a political UK party, namely the Lib-Dems.
Thankfully, if any good has come out of this absolute travesty of justice, that the likes of self-righteous Ed Davey and his 'liberalism' has now been exposed for EXACTLY what he/it STANDS FOR. ..... Double standard, hypocritical low life, self serving, self absorbed, preaching tyrants.
He was only one in many governments under whose watch this injustice happened and continued. Ed Davey & Co are endlessly self-righteous, but history shows the Lib Dems are the dirtiest street fighters in politics
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Post by ginnyg2 on Jan 16, 2024 12:59:29 GMT
Discussing this over lunch with some friends (as no doubt many people have been doing) one remarked that surely someone with half a brain must have questioned the fact that postmasters were suddenly fiddling the books en masse. Maybe not. Maybe brain cells are not a prerequisite for employment in the higher echelons of he post office.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 16, 2024 13:17:22 GMT
Discussing this over lunch with some friends (as no doubt many people have been doing) one remarked that surely someone with half a brain must have questioned the fact that postmasters were suddenly fiddling the books en masse. Maybe not. Maybe brain cells are not a prerequisite for employment in the higher echelons of he post office.And the church...About time. He is there to serve the croo-ked elites, not God, that much has been clear over the years.......Maybe another petition is in order...
Calls for Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby to resign over his links to disgraced Post Office boss Paula Vennells who 'he supported' for the role of Bishop of London despite Horizon scandal.
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Post by bancroft on Jan 16, 2024 15:11:22 GMT
Discussing this over lunch with some friends (as no doubt many people have been doing) one remarked that surely someone with half a brain must have questioned the fact that postmasters were suddenly fiddling the books en masse. Maybe not. Maybe brain cells are not a prerequisite for employment in the higher echelons of he post office. I guess we rely on the press to hear this, my brother told me solicitors acting for the postmasters were telling them to plead guilty as there were no other cases just theirs. If true is shocking and opens up a box or worms........... |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 16, 2024 15:15:30 GMT
Discussing this over lunch with some friends (as no doubt many people have been doing) one remarked that surely someone with half a brain must have questioned the fact that postmasters were suddenly fiddling the books en masse. Maybe not. Maybe brain cells are not a prerequisite for employment in the higher echelons of he post office.And the church...About time. He is there to serve the croo-ked elites, not God, that much has been clear over the years.......Maybe nother petition is in order...
Calls for Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby to resign over his links to disgraced Post Office boss Paula Vennells who 'he supported' for the role of Bishop of London despite Horizon scandal.
Someone summed her up perfectly ....."over promoted, and dim" |
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Post by Orac on Jan 16, 2024 15:24:41 GMT
Discussing this over lunch with some friends (as no doubt many people have been doing) one remarked that surely someone with half a brain must have questioned the fact that postmasters were suddenly fiddling the books en masse. Maybe not. Maybe brain cells are not a prerequisite for employment in the higher echelons of he post office. Yes. Apparently there is a legal presumption that a machine (or software) is working correctly unless it can be demonstrated otherwise. This seems reasonable, but you would have thought that the hidden sanity clause in all law would apply here - ie There is a legal presumption that a machine (or software) is working correctly unless it is producing bizarre, barely credible output. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 16, 2024 15:34:29 GMT
I doubt that the people in charge had any idea how widespread the problem was and thought that if they covered it up for long enough it would go away .
The more widespread it become , the more desperate they became ,
At what point do you do the decent thing and admit that you covered it up? A year, five years ? , two decades?
When you know that admitting it loses your house and pension , you have nothing to lose.
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Post by Orac on Jan 16, 2024 17:09:35 GMT
I doubt that the people in charge had any idea how widespread the problem was and thought that if they covered it up for long enough it would go away . The more widespread it become , the more desperate they became , At what point do you do the decent thing and admit that you covered it up? A year, five years ? , two decades? When you know that admitting it loses your house and pension , you have nothing to lose. Without a doubt - but this pressure wouldn't have applied to the judiciary..or would it? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 16, 2024 17:15:16 GMT
To be honest most of us would have laughed at this 'far fetched stuff of fiction', to think this happened in real life is quite frankly mind blowing.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 16, 2024 23:14:39 GMT
To be honest most of us would have laughed at this 'far fetched stuff of fiction', to think this happened in real life is quite frankly mind blowing. Don't forget this is the same MOD that have been known to pay £250 for a lightbulb.
Fury as Ministry of Defence covers up UK exposure to company behind Post Office scandal.....
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Post by jonksy on Jan 18, 2024 9:08:26 GMT
Starmer admits ‘mistakes’ after CPS criticised for pursuing postmasters....
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 18, 2024 15:32:45 GMT
Ever noticed how every toxic thing in this country traces back to Blair...
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Post by wapentake on Jan 19, 2024 18:37:17 GMT
At the enquiry today
“Fujitsu’s knew in 1999 that there were bugs errors and defects in the system called horizon and that post office prosecuted people and witness statements of Fujitsu employees were edited to remove that (crucial) evidence .
It wasn’t just deplorable it was criminal and whoever did it needs to pay the price in a criminal court.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2024 19:24:15 GMT
At the enquiry today “Fujitsu’s knew in 1999 that there were bugs errors and defects in the system called horizon and that post office prosecuted people and witness statements of Fujitsu employees were edited to remove that (crucial) evidence . It wasn’t just deplorable it was criminal and whoever did it needs to pay the price in a criminal court. I wonder if they could make a manslaughter charge stick for the guy who walked in front of a vehicle to kill himself. |
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Post by wapentake on Jan 20, 2024 7:23:19 GMT
Doesn't this demonstrate that incompetence is ignored and rewarded in this country? Former post office boss apologises over horizon debacle,he went on to oversee the (less than) smart motorway scheme another shambles that has seen people lose their lives and traffic chaos one of his representatives as I recall appeared on tv to tell us all that smart motorways were safer and better than those with a hard shoulder,clearly they think we are stupid and treat us as such. Mr Muppet then went on to try and fill his boots at the failed sale of LV a mutual where a few planned to line their pockets to the detriment of many. link |
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