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Post by Bentley on Jan 11, 2024 21:31:59 GMT
I didn’t give any  It was just a bit of humour. So was my post 😉 |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 12, 2024 1:33:09 GMT
I just listened to something on Times Radio that is quite incredible. Between 1999 and 2015, 900 postmasters were accused of theft, of those 900 the majority were forced to sell their homes and assets to repay phantom debts in order to avoid jail. 236 of them were jailed because they refused to admit they were thieves, many others were bankrupted. But this is the kicker, the Post Office were still actively prosecuting postmasters until, get this, 2021. I weep for those postmasters, there are so many people who will be found out.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 12, 2024 8:55:41 GMT
I just listened to something on Times Radio that is quite incredible. Between 1999 and 2015, 900 postmasters were accused of theft, of those 900 the majority were forced to sell their homes and assets to repay phantom debts in order to avoid jail. 236 of them were jailed because they refused to admit they were thieves, many others were bankrupted. But this is the kicker, the Post Office were still actively prosecuting postmasters until, get this, 2021. I weep for those postmasters, there are so many people who will be found out. In contrast to claims made, not necessarily on here, Fujitsu Siemens have enjoyed regular renewals of the Horizon contract and other first class cockups. The story that seriously winds me up is the one featured in the Beeb this morning, covering thr attempts made by the Post Office to stop Panirama revealing the existence of a no audit trail catflap that allowed the alteration of ledgers remotely without the knowledge of the postmaster I was some years ago hired by a forensic accounting firm to crack open the sql server database of Halifax / Bank Of Scotland to determine the degree to which the customers had been fucked over by the insane marketing ploys of a certain chap. I knew the moment Barclaycard hired him to run the sub prime mortgage operation i was employed with from 2006-2008 it was going to be bad news I’m coming round to the view that the scum running the Post Office really do need to gave every one of their possessions and assets seized under the proceeds of crime act, their passport endorsed ‘no access to funds’ and them and their families thrown into the gutter to die. It is after all nothing they did not do to the people they framed. Typically of course the BBC have started bleating hiw terrible it is that four Asian postmasters were pissed on. They dont give a shit about the other 696 as long as they can find a way to play a race card. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 12, 2024 12:14:34 GMT
I see that the CPS are now admitting that they were involved in around a 100 prosecutions (the number seems to rise by the day) - and somewhat conveniently most of the records have been destroyed so finding out who knew and did what is now impossible..
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 12, 2024 12:21:04 GMT
I just listened to something on Times Radio that is quite incredible. Between 1999 and 2015, 900 postmasters were accused of theft, of those 900 the majority were forced to sell their homes and assets to repay phantom debts in order to avoid jail. 236 of them were jailed because they refused to admit they were thieves, many others were bankrupted. But this is the kicker, the Post Office were still actively prosecuting postmasters until, get this, 2021. I weep for those postmasters, there are so many people who will be found out. In contrast to claims made, not necessarily on here, Fujitsu Siemens have enjoyed regular renewals of the Horizon contract and other first class cockups. The story that seriously winds me up is the one featured in the Beeb this morning, covering thr attempts made by the Post Office to stop Panirama revealing the existence of a no audit trail catflap that allowed the alteration of ledgers remotely without the knowledge of the postmaster I was some years ago hired by a forensic accounting firm to crack open the sql server database of Halifax / Bank Of Scotland to determine the degree to which the customers had been fucked over by the insane marketing ploys of a certain chap. I knew the moment Barclaycard hired him to run the sub prime mortgage operation i was employed with from 2006-2008 it was going to be bad news I’m coming round to the view that the scum running the Post Office really do need to gave every one of their possessions and assets seized under the proceeds of crime act, their passport endorsed ‘no access to funds’ and them and their families thrown into the gutter to die. It is after all nothing they did not do to the people they framed. Typically of course the BBC have started bleating hiw terrible it is that four Asian postmasters were pissed on. They dont give a shit about the other 696 as long as they can find a way to play a race card. There should be an ability to have their pensions forfeited |
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 12, 2024 12:23:07 GMT
I see that the CPS are now admitting that they were involved in around a 100 prosecutions (the number seems to rise by the day) - and somewhat conveniently most of the records have been destroyed so finding out who knew and did what is now impossible.. There must be court records or at least reports in local papers wrongly besmirching the good names of the postmasters prosecuted |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 12, 2024 12:41:44 GMT
I see that the CPS are now admitting that they were involved in around a 100 prosecutions (the number seems to rise by the day) - and somewhat conveniently most of the records have been destroyed so finding out who knew and did what is now impossible.. There must be court records or at least reports in local papers wrongly besmirching the good names of the postmasters prosecuted i think you might have the wrong end of the stick. If this relates to what i heard (yesterday) it’s not the convicted they ‘don’t have the details of’. It’s who made the allegations and who worked on what was going to be said in court before they got there that has very conveniently vanished. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 12, 2024 12:55:03 GMT
There must be court records or at least reports in local papers wrongly besmirching the good names of the postmasters prosecuted i think you might have the wrong end of the stick. If this relates to what i heard (yesterday) it’s not the convicted they ‘don’t have the details of’. It’s who made the allegations and who worked on what was going to be said in court before they got there that has very conveniently vanished. Perhaps Blair gave them one of his many shredders John. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 12, 2024 13:18:37 GMT
i think you might have the wrong end of the stick. If this relates to what i heard (yesterday) it’s not the convicted they ‘don’t have the details of’. It’s who made the allegations and who worked on what was going to be said in court before they got there that has very conveniently vanished. Perhaps Blair gave them one of his many shredders John. Not beyond the realms of possibility given that Blair's expenses were ''mistakenly'' shredded at the time of the expenses scandal and Sir Kneeler is trying to pretend that as big boss of the CPS he wasn't aware of those nine hundreds of postmasters' suddenly going rogue and being privately prosecuted by the Post Office and a hundred of them being prosecuted by his own department |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 12, 2024 13:27:34 GMT
i think you might have the wrong end of the stick. If this relates to what i heard (yesterday) it’s not the convicted they ‘don’t have the details of’. It’s who made the allegations and who worked on what was going to be said in court before they got there that has very conveniently vanished. Perhaps Blair gave them one of his many shredders John. This is what's bugging me, given the fact that both Blair and Starmer (LABOUR) can be linked to this Post Office scandal Sunak is not doing what Labour would do if it was the other way round.
Labour would be milking this for all it was worth if they could have linked a Tory Prime Minister and a Tory DPP to this scandal, we would never hear the last of it, both big gob Rayner and Starmer would be demanding everyone resign, report them to the police blah blah blah.
What does Sunak do, he waits till 2025 after a inquiry that will clearly blame the CPS/DPP and Labour, by which time it's too late because Starmer will be Prime Minister and a Labour government, Sunak should be demanding this information be released NOW, he should be demanding names, dates, places, departments, instead he wants to pay them off quickly and let Labour off the hook, he hasn't once mentioned Labour or Starmer or Blair. I'm telling you Sunak is a lefty and he wants them in power.
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 12, 2024 14:00:01 GMT
Perhaps Blair gave them one of his many shredders John. Not beyond the realms of possibility given that Blair's expenses were ''mistakenly'' shredded at the time of the expenses scandal and Sir Kneeler is trying to pretend that as big boss of the CPS he wasn't aware of those nine hundreds of postmasters' suddenly going rogue and being privately prosecuted by the Post Office and a hundred of them being prosecuted by his own department Just read this unbelievable snippet from the CPS Files on prosecutions in magistrates’ courts are destroyed after a year, and in Crown Court cases after five years unless there was a prison sentence longer than that.So HMRC insists that I (a private taxpaying individual) must keep my taxation paperwork for 7 years and yet the CPS , with has the powers to launch criminal prosecutions which could lead to criminal records , huge fines, deprivation of liberty , community punishments , injunctions , curfews , destroyed reputations and emplyment chances , homelessness , bankruptcy and a whole host of restrctions on private life simply bins any papers involved with impunity after minimum 12 months Unbelievable |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 12, 2024 15:11:23 GMT
Oh ok right I get it now, Starmer is fully behind the air strikes in Yemen, over the Red Sea attacks, as long as Sunak brushes this Post Office scandal under the carpet, I knew there was a trade off.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2024 15:50:23 GMT
Oh ok right I get it now, Starmer is fully behind the air strikes in Yemen, over the Red Sea attacks, as long as Sunak brushes this Post Office scandal under the carpet, I knew there was a trade off. Is that you making stuff up, or have you seen something in the news you could link? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 12, 2024 15:57:10 GMT
Oh ok right I get it now, Starmer is fully behind the air strikes in Yemen, over the Red Sea attacks, as long as Sunak brushes this Post Office scandal under the carpet, I knew there was a trade off. Is that you making stuff up, or have you seen something in the news you could link? Just a educated guess, whenever does Starmer willing without question back Sunak and the Tories, unless there's something in it for him, and the fact that the Post Office scandal is pointing the finger at him/Blair and Labour, you can't help but wonder why Sunak isn't capitalising on it ..... just saying. |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 12, 2024 15:57:57 GMT
Another aspect to this seems to be POs enforcers to get PO staff to plead guilty, if true that sounds like intimidation and raises the spectre of criminal investigation against the PO and enforcers.
This may run for some time.
Neither Labour or Tories can do well on this it is more about limiting political damage.
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