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Post by Pacifico on Jan 20, 2024 23:00:33 GMT
so now you believe their polling - that's a relief..   Yea that renain in the EU was throughout year is 60 -40 % What did your Chart Say 76% in favour to leave . Thought you tried to desive. It's not my chart, I am not a polling company - it's from Omnisis |
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 21, 2024 4:35:46 GMT
Yea that renain in the EU was throughout year is 60 -40 % What did your Chart Say 76% in favour to leave . Thought you tried to desive. It's not my chart, I am not a polling company - it's from Omnisis OK it's not your chart bit the Chart you posted says completely to what the polling Company says what the Return vote says .though out the year 60-40% . Don't Know how far you went back with your Chart that say only 20%+ says return but you tried to pass it off has a latest poll . What is Deception. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 21, 2024 7:49:23 GMT
It's not my chart, I am not a polling company - it's from Omnisis OK it's not your chart bit the Chart you posted says completely to what the polling Company says what the Return vote says .though out the year 60-40% . Don't Know how far you went back with your Chart that say only 20%+ says return but you tried to pass it off has a latest poll . What is Deception. No it isn't - it is from the same poll, it's just a slightly different question. One question is 'Would you vote to remain in the EU' - and that gets 60% in favour however if you ask 'Would you vote to rejoin the EU' - support for that slips to just 25% |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 21, 2024 8:04:13 GMT
Yea that renain in the EU was throughout year is 60 -40 % What did your Chart Say 76% in favour to leave . Thought you tried to desive. It's not my chart, I am not a polling company - it's from Omnisis Read the small print. The poll is about obligation to adopt EU currency. Not membership of the EU. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 21, 2024 8:28:45 GMT
It's not my chart, I am not a polling company - it's from Omnisis Read the small print. The poll is about obligation to adopt EU currency. Not membership of the EU. Joining the EU requires an obligation to adopt the Euro. I thought you would have known that. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jan 21, 2024 9:32:20 GMT
However 're-'joining might not. Nobody's ever done it yet.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 21, 2024 10:55:18 GMT
The problem with polls, all polls, is that the respondents tend to be people with an interest in the subject of the poll. So it's always going to be skewed.
It's probably more instructive to ask ourselves how often the subject comes up in real world conversation. Between work and social interactions, I probably speak to several hundred people a week (excluding social media and forums) and I can't remember the last time that the EU/Brexit came up in conversation.
When Brexit was new, the subject was on everyone's lips now practically no one talks about it.
I conclude that Brexit has no negative impact on most people. They are no longer interested, they've moved on. It's no longer a thing for them. And it's only die-hard remnants that mainly bother responding to these polls.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 21, 2024 11:43:37 GMT
However 're-'joining might not. Nobody's ever done it yet. There is nothing in the Treaty on the European Union that gives special criteria for rejoining - to introduce that would require a Treaty change. British exceptionalism stretches a long way but I'm not sure it stretches that far.. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jan 21, 2024 11:57:20 GMT
It would probably depend to a great extent on the importance existing member states attach to a British re-entry.
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 21, 2024 14:03:45 GMT
Read the small print. The poll is about obligation to adopt EU currency. Not membership of the EU. Joining the EU requires an obligation to adopt the Euro. I thought you would have known that. That is not the issue. I am contesting the claim that the EU approval in the EU is dropping. And also pointing out that the graph posted to prove it was about the adoption of the euro, with no reference to being in or out of the EU. Mods should be aware of how a conversation develops and not change the subject. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 21, 2024 14:05:41 GMT
However 're-'joining might not. Nobody's ever done it yet. There is nothing in the Treaty on the European Union that gives special criteria for rejoining - to introduce that would require a Treaty change. British exceptionalism stratesches a long way but I'm not sure it stretches that far.. No. The UK would be treated like any other applicant. You are either in or out of the EU. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 21, 2024 16:21:32 GMT
Joining the EU requires an obligation to adopt the Euro. I thought you would have known that. That is not the issue. I am contesting the claim that the EU approval in the EU is dropping. And also pointing out that the graph posted to prove it was about the adoption of the euro, with no reference to being in or out of the EU.Er... it literally says in large print "Stay out or Rejoin". |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 21, 2024 16:22:38 GMT
It would probably depend to a great extent on the importance existing member states attach to a British re-entry. oracle75 has spoken..  |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 22, 2024 9:15:29 GMT
The UK holds the same position as any other non member.
Any application to join would be treated like any other non member.
Whether they would have to use the Euro is part of the negotiations.
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 22, 2024 9:40:14 GMT
It would probably depend to a great extent on the importance existing member states attach to a British re-entry. Hopefully, member 'states' place no importance at all to British entry. We're out. I hope our European friends believe that too, and I hope Brussels places all kinds of obstacles and concessions to future UK governments thinking of rejoining a bureaucratic and wasteful behemoth. |
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