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Post by oracle75 on Jan 9, 2024 7:48:21 GMT
What's that got to do with Brexit (there's a free trade deal in effect)? The global picture is this: Legacy debts from the Covid crisis. War in Ukraine (a major agricultural supplier to the global market). Necessary sanctions against Russia have meant reduced fuel supplies and increased global transport costs. In response to climate change the government closed all our coal fired power stations before replacement wattage was supplied to the grid and a fire in 2021 shut down the undersea cable from France which government had relied on to make up the shortfall. www.theguardian.com/business/2021/sep/15/fire-shuts-one-of-uk-most-important-power-cables-in-midst-of-supply-crunchAs more infrastructure is built, electricity costs are going down. North Sea gas extraction is also going up. You dont have a free trade deal with the EU. You still pay customs duty and have to declare your exports, costing time and wages you have incurred on leaving. You HAD one when you were a member. The issues you mention affect all western countries. Yet the UK is the slowest to recover.
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 9, 2024 7:59:35 GMT
Oh do stop comparing situations ten years apart. It makes your case utterly meaningless. It osnr just the UK which has changed but so too have all the trading partners and trading parameters, including currency value and climate, affecting costs and yields of basic commodities upon which the cost and price of almost everything except services rely. The future will be rising costs of food and fuel regardless of petty national adjustments. The government should be prepared for floods and drought in productive agricultural global areas. And who do you think will be paying for research and installation of new energy sources?
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 17, 2024 8:09:29 GMT
The bandwagon is rolling.....
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 17, 2024 8:24:07 GMT
The bandwagon is rolling..... Funny how you right wingers like to post unsubstantiated post this could of come from. Anywhere properly a Made up chart to deceive people .you Brexiters like to do that .Especially lying to the County to get there votes
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 17, 2024 8:37:56 GMT
Omnisis are a polling company who have been around for years.. wethink.report/
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2024 8:40:42 GMT
The bandwagon is rolling..... Funny how you right wingers like to post unsubstantiated post this could of come from. Anywhere properly a Made up chart to deceive people .you Brexiters like to do that .Especially lying to the County to get there votes It's funny that you have no idea about the EU or why you want to be in it.
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Post by thomas on Jan 17, 2024 9:34:09 GMT
The latest polls show that 54% think we are worse of leaving the EU. Only 23% think we did the right thing . When labour win the GE think sir Keir should build stronger links with the EU. Again The latest Redfield and wilton poll shows new labour taking a mere 20.6% of the electorates vote on an extremely low turnout. If Keir starmer try to take the UK back into the EU via the Brussels back doors , and some BRINO deal , he is going to set the uk on fire doing so with such a non existent mandate from the voters.
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 17, 2024 10:44:42 GMT
What's that got to do with Brexit (there's a free trade deal in effect)? The global picture is this: Legacy debts from the Covid crisis. War in Ukraine (a major agricultural supplier to the global market). Necessary sanctions against Russia have meant reduced fuel supplies and increased global transport costs. In response to climate change the government closed all our coal fired power stations before replacement wattage was supplied to the grid and a fire in 2021 shut down the undersea cable from France which government had relied on to make up the shortfall. www.theguardian.com/business/2021/sep/15/fire-shuts-one-of-uk-most-important-power-cables-in-midst-of-supply-crunchAs more infrastructure is built, electricity costs are going down. North Sea gas extraction is also going up. You dont have a free trade deal with the EU.You still pay customs duty and have to declare your exports, costing time and wages you have incurred on leaving. You HAD one when you were a member. The issues you mention affect all western countries. Yet the UK is the slowest to recover. By the same token the EU has no free trade deals at all, with anyone. Regarding the UK to be the slowest recovering nation from the Covid pandemic I assume, you are caught out here telling lies. Perhaps if you want to debate the UK's standing post-Brexit it would be advisable to be honest about it. www.cityam.com/doomsayers-proved-wrong-uk-had-third-fastest-covid-recovery-in-g7-revised-gdp-data-now-shows/
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Post by Dan Dare on Jan 17, 2024 11:20:28 GMT
Chocolate, whisky and plonk - the foundation for a 21st century technically-advanced economy.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 17, 2024 11:25:19 GMT
UK economy grew in 2023. Eurozone went into recession in 2023.
You'll be telling us next Brexit means no tomatoes. Quit moaning.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jan 17, 2024 11:36:43 GMT
It's either this... or this... Your choice to make. But you already did.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 17, 2024 11:44:50 GMT
One year ago this bollocks about tomatoes was debunked (by the BBC) and still you're coming out with this crap.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 17, 2024 11:48:18 GMT
You can understand why 48% of the electorate voted to remain in the EU - brainwashed..
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Post by Dan Dare on Jan 17, 2024 11:48:41 GMT
Thought that would get your goat.
But re tomatoes, I'm given to understand that the UK's preferred source is now that bastion of civilisation and human rights Morocco.
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 17, 2024 12:53:32 GMT
Chocolate, whisky and plonk - the foundation for a 21st century technically-advanced economy. Just an economy more diverse than Germany's will suffice.
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