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Post by jonksy on Dec 14, 2023 7:16:45 GMT
Tony Blair should be stripped of his knighthood, ministers told.
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Post by wapentake on Dec 14, 2023 7:28:22 GMT
Tony Blair should be stripped of his knighthood, ministers told.
I wouldn’t argue with that Jonksy,will never happen though because they cant admit any wrongdoing which reflects on all past and present administrations. IMO Blair was and is a stain on both Britains politics and history,even today he’s weaseling and manoeuvring through his foundation and influence on Starmer who openly takes his advice and projects himself as the new Blair. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 14, 2023 7:32:51 GMT
Tony Blair should be stripped of his knighthood, ministers told.
I wouldn’t argue with that Jonksy,will never happen though because they cant admit any wrongdoing which reflects on all past and present administrations. IMO Blair was and is a stain on both Britains politics and history,even today he’s weaseling and manoeuvring through his foundation and influence on Starmer who openly takes his advice and projects himself as the new Blair. While fairly obviously the people who control Blair, certainly don't have your best interests at heart. He certainly isn't the only one either. It is the dire state of politics. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 14, 2023 8:27:46 GMT
Blair should be stripped and beaten, then threw in to prison for war crimes, instead he's worshiped by the lefties, and only the lefties can get away with war crimes.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 14, 2023 8:52:01 GMT
Blair should be stripped and beaten, then threw in to prison for war crimes, instead he's worshiped by the lefties, and only the lefties can get away with war crimes. The same goes for Cameron mate. This is the arsehole who stopped our fallen heroes being repatriated to the same place in the UK as he thought he could hide the true cost of lives thanks to Blair. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 14, 2023 9:09:26 GMT
Blair should be stripped and beaten, then threw in to prison for war crimes, instead he's worshiped by the lefties, and only the lefties can get away with war crimes. The same goes for Cameron mate. This is the arsehole who stopped our fallen heroes being repatriated to the same place in the UK as he thought he could hide the true cost of lives thanks to Blair. Yes, another slime ball, he's another one who's been brought back in to government, why is incompetence always rewarded, these two should never have been seen or heard of again. |
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Post by dappy on Dec 14, 2023 9:14:11 GMT
Wish we had a politician from any party half as strong as Blair to help pull the country back from the mess it seems to have become. Honestly not sure I see anyone remotely of his calibre around today. Yes I agree Britain's involvement in the second Gulf War was a mistake - although the reality on the ground would have been the same regardless of our involvement, but otherwise one of the post war great Prime Ministers in my view.
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Post by johnofgwent on Dec 14, 2023 9:21:21 GMT
Wish we had a politician from any party half as strong as Blair to help pull the country back from the mess it seems to have become. Honestly not sure I see anyone remotely of his calibre around today. Yes I agree Britain's involvement in the second Gulf War was a mistake - although the reality on the ground would have been the same regardless of our involvement, but otherwise one of the post war great Prime Ministers in my view. can we not bribe one ? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 14, 2023 10:39:37 GMT
Wish we had a politician from any party half as strong as Blair to help pull the country back from the mess it seems to have become. Honestly not sure I see anyone remotely of his calibre around today. Yes I agree Britain's involvement in the second Gulf War was a mistake - although the reality on the ground would have been the same regardless of our involvement, but otherwise one of the post war great Prime Ministers in my view. Thankfully there can't be that many low life self serving war criminals of his low calibre around today. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 11:17:12 GMT
The Alba Party ? -- Oh yes I remember them now
They are the break-away from the SNP
Tony Blair did more for Good than the last 5 Tory Prime Ministers, who together have overseen the decimation of public services, inflicted economic turmoil, low growth and record National Debt.
For ending the civil war in Sierra Leone, and together with Mo Mowlam for finally bringing peace to Northern Ireland, for introducing the National Minimum Wage, rescuing our NHS ( now look at it ), for introducing equal rights for gay men and women, for the Winter Fuel Allowance, for giving pensioners free bus travel.
What have the last 5 Tory Prime Ministers given us ?
( Clue: two words, ends in "All" )
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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 14, 2023 11:32:04 GMT
The Alba Party ? -- Oh yes I remember them now They are the break-away from the SNP Tony Blair did more for Good than the last 5 Tory Prime Ministers, who together have overseen the decimation of public services, inflicted economic turmoil, low growth and record National Debt. For ending the civil war in Sierra Leone, and together with Mo Mowlam for finally bringing peace to Northern Ireland, for introducing the National Minimum Wage, rescuing our NHS ( now look at it ), for introducing equal rights for gay men and women, for the Winter Fuel Allowance, for giving pensioners free bus travel. What have the last 5 Tory Prime Ministers given us ? ( Clue: two words, ends in "All" ) To be fair, John Major did all the heavy lifting when it came to peace in Northern Ireland. |
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Post by Vinny on Dec 14, 2023 11:35:42 GMT
Blair should never have had a Knighthood. Terrible man. As for Mo Mowlam, the NI peace process began under John Major. The Tories did the hard work, Labour simply surrendered to the IRA. Sierra Leone? UNMASIL. The forces of Bangladesh, Belarus, India, Pakistan, Kenya, Russia, Ukraine, Nigeria, Norway, New Zealand, Ghana, Jordan, Germany, Guinea and the USA played just as important a role as our troops. It was a team effort, not Blair. Rescuing our NHS? Don't make me laugh. Rights for gays? Er that was the sixties mate. Bus pass scheme was Brown, not Blair. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_National_Concessionary_Travel_SchemeIndustrial decline occurred in the Blair years. He surrendered sovereignty to the EU getting nothing in return. There were the fiascos of the Bombing of Serbia (aftermath the massacre of Kosovan Serbs johnpilger.com/articles/reminders-of-kosovo ) Iraq war fiasco. House prices went out of control putting millions into poverty negating any benefits of the minimum wage. He appeased Putin despite a lot of warnings and invited that paedophile to NATO summits. Fuck Blair. The man is an absolute kunt. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 14, 2023 11:38:50 GMT
Whilst involvement in the Iraq war was obviously wrong, in itself I don't feel that is enough to warrant stripping of his knighthood.
What does warrant that action though is the fact that he manufactured evidence to take us to war - that anyone involved in the production and dissemination of the dodgy dossiers should get a reward from the State just astounds me. I can handle mistakes but deliberate deception that resulted in many deaths is something else.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 11:40:03 GMT
Tony Blair should be stripped of his knighthood, ministers told.
I wouldn’t argue with that Jonksy,will never happen though because they cant admit any wrongdoing which reflects on all past and present administrations. IMO Blair was and is a stain on both Britains politics and history,even today he’s weaseling and manoeuvring through his foundation and influence on Starmer who openly takes his advice and projects himself as the new Blair. Which is one very good reason why Labour will not be getting my vote. The sheeple might well be so fed up with the Tories that they will vote for anyone who might get them out, which in many places will be Labour, but I will not vote for a bucket of vomit to get a bucket of shit out. Neither Tories nor Labour are ever likely to get my vote. Which sadly means under our current voting system they don't have to give a shit about what I or any of us who dont support the main parties actually think. In our supposed democracy which is in effect very limited, most of us effectively have no say if we do not support either Labour or Tories. |
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Post by dappy on Dec 14, 2023 11:40:36 GMT
John Major certainly gets his share of the credit for the relative peace we see now in Northern Ireland, as do a whole range of other figures. Just silly to suggest that it would have happened without Blair. Iraq war aside (and as I say that would have happened with or without UK support) best Prime Minister in my lifetime. I hope Starmer achieves half as much as Blair did in rebuilding our country. Tough job though.
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