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Post by see2 on Dec 14, 2023 12:54:41 GMT
Blair should be stripped and beaten, then threw in to prison for war crimes, instead he's worshiped by the lefties, and only the lefties can get away with war crimes. Blair acted within the law, right-wing idiots like yourself are not interested in the truth, all they are interested in is throwing tons of hypocritical lies knowing that said often enough Right-wing Nazi type shit) will stick. I don't think Righties can sink much lower.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 14, 2023 12:56:40 GMT
Stripping him of a knighthood is petty and spiteful . Blair will go down in history as the PM behind the great WMD lie that took us into the Iraq war . He will be known as Dubya’s poodle too. He is a political non entity nowadays . He pops up and everyone yawns. Knighthoods mean nothing.Jimmy Saville got a knighthood.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 14, 2023 12:58:23 GMT
How many died in conflicts stoked by Truss? So by that metric Thatcher was worse than Truss. The Falklands war was a picnic compared with Iraq and its aftermath .
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Post by see2 on Dec 14, 2023 13:02:29 GMT
Wish we had a politician from any party half as strong as Blair to help pull the country back from the mess it seems to have become. Honestly not sure I see anyone remotely of his calibre around today. Yes I agree Britain's involvement in the second Gulf War was a mistake - although the reality on the ground would have been the same regardless of our involvement, but otherwise one of the post war great Prime Ministers in my view. Thankfully there can't be that many low life self serving war criminals of his low calibre around today. IF he was a war criminal he would be in prison, that simple fact is proven by the fact that there are many extremely rich individuals who were against the war who had the influence and the wealth to put him there. If he was guilty. I know you Righties don't like to have to face up to reality, but that is what happens when they continue to post garbage.
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Post by wapentake on Dec 14, 2023 13:08:43 GMT
Blair should be stripped and beaten, then threw in to prison for war crimes, instead he's worshiped by the lefties, and only the lefties can get away with war crimes. Blair acted within the law, right-wing idiots like yourself are not interested in the truth, all they are interested in is throwing tons of hypocritical lies knowing that said often enough Right-wing Nazi type shit) will stick. I don't think Righties can sink much lower. Having an alternative opinion to yours isn’t a sign of idiocy.
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Post by see2 on Dec 14, 2023 13:18:33 GMT
Stripping him of a knighthood is petty and spiteful . Blair will go down in history as the PM behind the great WMD lie that took us into the Iraq war . He will be known as Dubya’s poodle too. He is a political non entity nowadays . He pops up and everyone yawns. Blair was guided by UK intelligence information and the 12 year refusal by Saddam to allow the UN Inspectors to do their job of searching for the missing WMD, into believing that Saddam did in fact have WMD. So Blair was definitely not behind some great WMD Lie. Bush, Blix and Saddam have to take the blame in that respect.
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Post by see2 on Dec 14, 2023 13:22:55 GMT
Blair acted within the law, right-wing idiots like yourself are not interested in the truth, all they are interested in is throwing tons of hypocritical lies knowing that said often enough Right-wing Nazi type shit) will stick. I don't think Righties can sink much lower. Having an alternative opinion to yours isn’t a sign of idiocy. Ignoring the truth and posting dishonest posts by Righties deserves to be exposed just as much as Righties like posting the blame for just about everything on 'Lefties'.
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Post by see2 on Dec 14, 2023 13:32:33 GMT
Blair should never have had a Knighthood. Terrible man. As for Mo Mowlam, the NI peace process began under John Major. The Tories did the hard work, Labour simply surrendered to the IRA. Sierra Leone? UNMASIL. The forces of Bangladesh, Belarus, India, Pakistan, Kenya, Russia, Ukraine, Nigeria, Norway, New Zealand, Ghana, Jordan, Germany, Guinea and the USA played just as important a role as our troops. It was a team effort, not Blair. Rescuing our NHS? Don't make me laugh. Rights for gays? Er that was the sixties mate. Bus pass scheme was Brown, not Blair. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_National_Concessionary_Travel_SchemeIndustrial decline occurred in the Blair years. He surrendered sovereignty to the EU getting nothing in return. There were the fiascos of the Bombing of Serbia (aftermath the massacre of Kosovan Serbs johnpilger.com/articles/reminders-of-kosovo ) Iraq war fiasco. House prices went out of control putting millions into poverty negating any benefits of the minimum wage. He appeased Putin despite a lot of warnings and invited that paedophile to NATO summits. Fuck Blair. The man is an absolute kunt. You get this years accolade for being the most whingeingly totally biased poster. Time to grow up Vin.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 14, 2023 13:32:54 GMT
Stripping him of a knighthood is petty and spiteful . Blair will go down in history as the PM behind the great WMD lie that took us into the Iraq war . He will be known as Dubya’s poodle too. He is a political non entity nowadays . He pops up and everyone yawns. Blair was guided by UK intelligence information and the 12 year refusal by Saddam to allow the UN Inspectors to do their job of searching for the missing WMD, into believing that Saddam did in fact have WMD. So Blair was definitely not behind some great WMD Lie. Bush, Blix and Saddam have to take the blame in that respect. He wasn’t the only one lying . I grant you that .
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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 14, 2023 13:35:24 GMT
So by that metric Thatcher was worse than Truss. The Falklands war was a picnic compared with Iraq and its aftermath . The comparison was between Truss and Thatcher, based on Pac's metric.
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Post by see2 on Dec 14, 2023 13:37:24 GMT
Blair was guided by UK intelligence information and the 12 year refusal by Saddam to allow the UN Inspectors to do their job of searching for the missing WMD, into believing that Saddam did in fact have WMD. So Blair was definitely not behind some great WMD Lie. Bush, Blix and Saddam have to take the blame in that respect. He wasn’t the only one lying . I grant you that . Would you be kind enough to post the Lie, with substantial proof, that Blair actually said?
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Post by Bentley on Dec 14, 2023 13:41:06 GMT
The Falklands war was a picnic compared with Iraq and its aftermath . The comparison was between Truss and Thatcher, based on Pac's metric. Apologies . It’s a fair cop. I did it all.
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Post by wapentake on Dec 14, 2023 13:41:47 GMT
Having an alternative opinion to yours isn’t a sign of idiocy. Ignoring the truth and posting dishonest posts by Righties deserves to be exposed just as much as Righties like posting the blame for just about everything on 'Lefties'. Well I don’t subscribe to righty lefty terms if others want to that’s their choice.
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Post by see2 on Dec 14, 2023 13:41:53 GMT
Whilst involvement in the Iraq war was obviously wrong, in itself I don't feel that is enough to warrant stripping of his knighthood. What does warrant that action though is the fact that he manufactured evidence to take us to war - that anyone involved in the production and dissemination of the dodgy dossiers should get a reward from the State just astounds me. I can handle mistakes but deliberate deception that resulted in many deaths is something else. Please post the lies listed in either of the Dossiers.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 14, 2023 13:45:09 GMT
The Falklands war was a picnic compared with Iraq and its aftermath . The comparison was between Truss and Thatcher, based on Pac's metric. The Falklands war was justified. British sovereign territory was invaded against the democratic wishes of the islanders. Thatcher didn't invade anyone. Blair did, multiple times, in violation of the UN Charter and Article 1 of the North Atlantic Treaty of 1949.
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