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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 17, 2023 16:02:44 GMT
According to a report in the Guardian charities and NGOs proving migrant support in the Pas de Calais and Dunkirk regions are warning that living conditions are now 'catastrophic' owing to a combination of bad weather and lack of French government support for the several thousand camping out in the area awaiting transport to England.
"Axel Gaudinat of Utopia 56 warned that asylum seekers in Calais and Dunkirk were at risk of death because living conditions had never been as dire and dangerous as they are now.
He told the Guardian that the combination of unprecedented numbers in northern France at the moment – about 2,000 in Calais and 1,500 in Dunkirk – along with the stormy weather and failure of the French government to provide enough basic shelter for lone children, pregnant women and families was a disaster waiting to happen."
Surely there must be plenty of 3- and 4-star hotels in the area that could be commandeered to resolve this crisis. What would Rishi do?
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Post by sandypine on Nov 17, 2023 16:18:53 GMT
According to a report in the Guardian charities and NGOs proving migrant support in the Pas de Calais and Dunkirk regions are warning that living conditions are now 'catastrophic' owing to a combination of bad weather and lack of French government support for the several thousand camping out in the area awaiting transport to England.
"Axel Gaudinat of Utopia 56 warned that asylum seekers in Calais and Dunkirk were at risk of death because living conditions had never been as dire and dangerous as they are now.
He told the Guardian that the combination of unprecedented numbers in northern France at the moment – about 2,000 in Calais and 1,500 in Dunkirk – along with the stormy weather and failure of the French government to provide enough basic shelter for lone children, pregnant women and families was a disaster waiting to happen."
Surely there must be plenty of 3- and 4-star hotels in the area that could be commandeered to resolve this crisis. What would Rishi do?
They could claim asylum in France and solve the living conditions problem immediately. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 17, 2023 16:34:14 GMT
According to a report in the Guardian charities and NGOs proving migrant support in the Pas de Calais and Dunkirk regions are warning that living conditions are now 'catastrophic' owing to a combination of bad weather and lack of French government support for the several thousand camping out in the area awaiting transport to England.
"Axel Gaudinat of Utopia 56 warned that asylum seekers in Calais and Dunkirk were at risk of death because living conditions had never been as dire and dangerous as they are now.
He told the Guardian that the combination of unprecedented numbers in northern France at the moment – about 2,000 in Calais and 1,500 in Dunkirk – along with the stormy weather and failure of the French government to provide enough basic shelter for lone children, pregnant women and families was a disaster waiting to happen."
Surely there must be plenty of 3- and 4-star hotels in the area that could be commandeered to resolve this crisis. What would Rishi do?
Oh dear, I just checked the cupboard and it appears there are no shits left to give. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 18, 2023 9:10:09 GMT
Oh dear, what a pity. But how does Macron get away with this? Doesn't he have any opposition who bleat all the time about inhuman treatment of the oppressed? If our govt tried this the BBC would on about it all day every day.
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Post by ginnyg on Nov 18, 2023 9:21:47 GMT
Oh dear, what a pity. But how does Macron get away with this? Doesn't he have any opposition who bleat all the time about inhuman treatment of the oppressed? If our govt tried this the BBC would on about it all day every day. Good point. |
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Post by ginnyg on Nov 18, 2023 9:23:51 GMT
According to a report in the Guardian charities and NGOs proving migrant support in the Pas de Calais and Dunkirk regions are warning that living conditions are now 'catastrophic' owing to a combination of bad weather and lack of French government support for the several thousand camping out in the area awaiting transport to England.
"Axel Gaudinat of Utopia 56 warned that asylum seekers in Calais and Dunkirk were at risk of death because living conditions had never been as dire and dangerous as they are now.
He told the Guardian that the combination of unprecedented numbers in northern France at the moment – about 2,000 in Calais and 1,500 in Dunkirk – along with the stormy weather and failure of the French government to provide enough basic shelter for lone children, pregnant women and families was a disaster waiting to happen."
Surely there must be plenty of 3- and 4-star hotels in the area that could be commandeered to resolve this crisis. What would Rishi do?
Saw some of them being interviewed by a reporter. Didn't seem to be able to find any pregnant women. All young single males. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 18, 2023 9:25:24 GMT
So let's get this straight: In France these people get a cardboard box and a plastic bag but in the UK they get a 4 Star hotel and pocket money?
And we wonder why they want to come here. Never mind Rwanda, we need to get back to the "Hostile environment" that Tweeza promised and never delivered.
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 18, 2023 9:48:42 GMT
It's an interesting mental exercise and well as an instructive insight into cultural difference, but say the roles were reversed and migrants were congregating in Kent in such dire circumstances.
What would Rishi do? Or for that matter any British prime minister in living memory?
What would the Daily Mail demand was done about it?
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Post by sheepy on Nov 18, 2023 11:11:45 GMT
3500 good weather for 3 days will see them gone.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 19, 2023 10:01:08 GMT
The thread title is - "Migrant conditions now 'catastrophic' in Northern France".
My immediate thought is, so what? It should have absolutely nothing to do with the UK. It was the EU who openly encouraged every vagrant criminal and no doubt terrorist from the Middle East and Africa to come to a borderless Europe. It's a massive problem designed and implemented from Brussels, let the EU deal with it.
Regarding illegals from the EU the question we should be asking is; how much worse will it get once Labour are in power. I dread to think.
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Post by oracle75 on Nov 19, 2023 10:25:50 GMT
Neither France or any other EU country has a responsibility to provide anything for those with no affiliation to France oe any state they are in.
They have no claim to any help from France since they have no papers proving right of residence, tax records or even an address. They dont even belong under the umbrella of EU agreed protection.
The only thing they have a right to is urgent medical care.
Responsibility starts with a claim for asylum.
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 19, 2023 11:15:00 GMT
The difference is that illegal aliens in the UK are entitled to financial support and housing if they are destitute and can show that they meet one of the following requirements: - They are taking all reasonable steps to leave the UK - They are unable to leave the UK due to physical impediment - They have no safe route of return - They have been granted leave to appeal in an application for judicial review in relation to their asylum claim - They require support to avoid a breach of their human rights, for example they have made further submissions to the Home Office for a fresh asylum claim
If they are unsure how to go about claiming so-called Section 4 Support, some kindly person from the Citizens Advice Bureau or one of the myriad charities that specialise in 'migrants rights' will be able to assist.
The United Kingdom is a very friendly, compassionate and accommodating country unlike some others that could be named. Apparently that's the way that people like it.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 19, 2023 11:46:58 GMT
Neither France or any other EU country has a responsibility to provide anything for those with no affiliation to France oe any state they are in. They have no claim to any help from France since they have no papers proving right of residence, tax records or even an address. They dont even belong under the umbrella of EU agreed protection. The only thing they have a right to is urgent medical care. Responsibility starts with a claim for asylum. There is no such thing as an 'EU country'. Countries are independent and sovereign (See UK). There are 27 'EU states' which are governed from Brussels, these states are not independent or sovereign (See Primacy of EU law). Ref illegal immigrants. Are you aware that the EU force boats back to Libya but ignore boats leaving the EU state of France bound for England? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 19, 2023 13:26:00 GMT
EU law is not relevant in matters relating to immigration and asylum; these remain the prerogative of member states.
I think you've been told this before, quite a few times now.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 19, 2023 13:39:41 GMT
EU law is not relevant in matters relating to immigration and asylum; these remain the prerogative of member states. I think you've been told this before, quite a few times now. The EU force member states to accept migrant quotas and impose fines of €20,000 for each migrant they refuse to accept. I believe Poland is refusing to pay and is facing a €600 million fine. I have mentioned this a few times now. |
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