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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 16, 2023 14:54:33 GMT
I found it quite uplifting last night to see politicians, whether you agree with them or not, standing up for a principle accepting personal cost in so doing. I suspect many will be back in the Government after the next election. I find that encouraging. Are you talking about 'principled' Labour MP's who rebelled against Starmer because they represent pro Hamas Muslim constituencies and are worried about losing their seats. Imagine anyone posting 'politicians' and 'Principle' in the same sentence. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 16, 2023 14:59:54 GMT
Are you talking about 'principled' Labour MP's who rebelled against Starmer because they represent pro Hamas Muslim constituencies and are worried about losing their seats. Imagine anyone posting 'politicians' and 'Principle' in the same sentence. Yes indeed, in many cases self serving would be a more apt description than principled. Slight digression; I listened to someone last night who said when Sunak is at the despatch box he has his opponents in front of him, and his enemies behind him. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 15:15:31 GMT
I found it quite uplifting last night to see politicians, whether you agree with them or not, standing up for a principle accepting personal cost in so doing. I suspect many will be back in the Government after the next election. I find that encouraging. Are you talking about 'principled' Labour MP's who rebelled against Starmer because they represent pro Hamas Muslim constituencies and are worried about losing their seats. Pro Hamas Muslim communities, are you having a laugh. Why would you even suggest that is possible, have we no security service that would know? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 16, 2023 15:37:27 GMT
Are you talking about 'principled' Labour MP's who rebelled against Starmer because they represent pro Hamas Muslim constituencies and are worried about losing their seats. Pro Hamas Muslim communities, are you having a laugh. Why would you even suggest that is possible, have we no security service that would know? The security services say 90% of the 43,000 people on a terror watch list in this country are Muslims. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 15:56:42 GMT
Pro Hamas Muslim communities, are you having a laugh. Why would you even suggest that is possible, have we no security service that would know? The security services say 90% of the 43,000 people on a terror watch list in this country are Muslims. Even if you are right that does not make "Pro Hamas Muslim communities", does it? Do you think waging war in Muslim countries could have contributed to it. Claiming there are "Pro Hamas Muslim constituencies" in this country is just playing to the racists? |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 16, 2023 15:58:26 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 16, 2023 15:59:29 GMT
I found it quite uplifting last night to see politicians, whether you agree with them or not, standing up for a principle accepting personal cost in so doing. I suspect many will be back in the Government after the next election. I find that encouraging. Are you talking about 'principled' Labour MP's who rebelled against Starmer because they represent pro Hamas Muslim constituencies and are worried about losing their seats. That'll be the ones. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 16, 2023 16:00:47 GMT
Slight digression; I listened to someone last night who said when Sunak is at the despatch box he has his opponents in front of him, and his enemies behind him. But there again, don't they all? Frankly, even if Labour do get in, I don't see Sir Flip-Flop lasting long. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 16, 2023 16:02:26 GMT
There you go: Labour - the official pro-Hamas party.
To the surprise of absolutely no one whatsoever.
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Post by see2 on Nov 16, 2023 16:13:20 GMT
The security services say 90% of the 43,000 people on a terror watch list in this country are Muslims. Even if you are right that does not make "Pro Hamas Muslim communities", does it? Do you think waging war in Muslim countries could have contributed to it. Claiming there are "Pro Hamas Muslim constituencies" in this country is just playing to the racists? I'm not sure these communities are so much pro Hamas supporters, I think they just have an abundance of Israelophobes both of Muslim background and the naive of non-Muslim background. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 16, 2023 16:18:17 GMT
There you go: Labour - the official pro-Hamas party.
To the surprise of absolutely no one whatsoever.
If you were to be correct for once, that would mean the Labour party would have been wiped out on the vote for a ceasefire in Gaza. |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 16, 2023 16:18:35 GMT
Pro Hamas Muslim communities, are you having a laugh. Why would you even suggest that is possible, have we no security service that would know? The security services say 90% of the 43,000 people on a terror watch list in this country are Muslims. Which would make up what % of UK Muslims? |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 16, 2023 16:19:50 GMT
There you go: Labour - the official pro-Hamas party.
To the surprise of absolutely no one whatsoever.
Muslim doesn't automatically = pro Hamas. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 16, 2023 16:25:18 GMT
The security services say 90% of the 43,000 people on a terror watch list in this country are Muslims. Which would make up what % of UK Muslims? Why do you think this is important? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 16, 2023 16:27:19 GMT
There you go: Labour - the official pro-Hamas party.
To the surprise of absolutely no one whatsoever. Muslim doesn't automatically = pro Hamas. I agree, many of the deluded aggressive lefties who demonstrate in support of Hamas appear to be non Muslims. |
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