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Post by Vinny on Nov 16, 2023 16:35:49 GMT
The security services say 90% of the 43,000 people on a terror watch list in this country are Muslims. Which would make up what % of UK Muslims? Mohammad Sidique Khan, Germaine Lindsay, Hasib Hussain, and Shezad Tanweer, comprised what % of Muslims in the UK? Salman Abedi made up what % of Muslims in the UK? Percentages don't matter to a bomb. A bomb is a bomb is a bomb. And a bomb made by Islamists, in a public place, designed and placed to kill as many civilians as possible, will do so, unless stopped. Some of the efforts needed to stop the bombings, will no doubt offend some, but better to offend religious lunatics than appease and get bombed anyway. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 16, 2023 16:38:48 GMT
Muslim doesn't automatically = pro Hamas. I agree, many of the deluded aggressive lefties who demonstrate in support of Hamas appear to be non Muslims. You have no idea whether or how many Righty protesters demonstrated against the slaughter taking place in Gaza. |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 16, 2023 16:40:26 GMT
Which would make up what % of UK Muslims? Why do you think this is important? If it's a tiny percentage it's hardly fair to judge all Muslims by their example, anymore than it would be to judge you by the example of far right extremists. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 16, 2023 16:49:16 GMT
I agree, many of the deluded aggressive lefties who demonstrate in support of Hamas appear to be non Muslims. You have no idea whether or how many Righty protesters demonstrated against the slaughter taking place in Gaza. A small group of people attempted to protest about Hamas terrorists, the police told them to leave the area immediately or they would be arrested. Meanwhile the police ignored Hamas supporters who had their faces covered and were climbing on a war memorial and treading all over wreaths. And Rowley says we do not have two tier policing. He should be dismissed immediately. He is a minority appeasing apologist and a global embarrassment. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 16, 2023 16:52:47 GMT
Why do you think this is important? If it's a tiny percentage it's hardly fair to judge all Muslims by their example, anymore than it would be to judge you by the example of far right extremists. Feelings are running high, the usual apologists for Israel and Hamas are battling it out. Neither have any sense of proportion. About as simple as it can be explained. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 16, 2023 16:57:04 GMT
Why do you think this is important? If it's a tiny percentage it's hardly fair to judge all Muslims by their example, anymore than it would be to judge you by the example of far right extremists. You appear to be relaxed about the fact that MI5 are monitoring no fewar than 39,000 Muslim terror suspects in this non Islamic country, and I have to say, few will be surprised. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 16, 2023 16:59:46 GMT
Why do you think this is important? If it's a tiny percentage it's hardly fair to judge all Muslims by their example, anymore than it would be to judge you by the example of far right extremists.     It's not a matter of "judging all Muslims" it's a matter of actively taking steps to prevent this ever fucking happening again. And I would rather offend you, by taking steps against extremism, than kill and maim hundreds of people by ignoring the problem of Islamist extremists. Because those extremists hide behind ordinary Muslims. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 16, 2023 17:01:19 GMT
The security services say 90% of the 43,000 people on a terror watch list in this country are Muslims. Which would make up what % of UK Muslims? Interesting question. You can however consider the figures in another way if 90% of terror suspects are coming from a community that comprises about 6% ( approx 4 million people) of the population and 10% is coming from the other 95% (approx 62 million people) do you think there is a problem within a specific community? |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 16, 2023 17:03:55 GMT
But on the Brightside, it is a great time to be invested in the Military Industrial Complex.
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 16, 2023 17:13:14 GMT
But on the Brightside, it is a great time to be invested in the Military Industrial Complex. It always has been, it's a growth industry. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 18:13:44 GMT
The security services say 90% of the 43,000 people on a terror watch list in this country are Muslims. Which would make up what % of UK Muslims? 0.1% or 1 in a thousand. However 37,000 people is a town size population. It's a sizeable, dangerous minority. |
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Post by om15 on Nov 16, 2023 18:56:30 GMT
If this survey is to be believed then the Muslims questioned are showing great ingratitude. The Conservative Government sends out boats to ensure their safe arrival, gives them blankets and cups of tea, puts them up in five star hotels, gives them dental and medical care, pocket money and guarantees that they can stay here forever, bring their families here and permit them to scramble about over our war memorials, and in return they vote Labour.
The new British are not demonstrating loyalty to the people who are welcoming them with open arms.
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 17, 2023 6:55:53 GMT
If it's a tiny percentage it's hardly fair to judge all Muslims by their example, anymore than it would be to judge you by the example of far right extremists. It's not a matter of "judging all Muslims" it's a matter of actively taking steps to prevent this ever fucking happening again. And I would rather offend you, by taking steps against extremism, than kill and maim hundreds of people by ignoring the problem of Islamist extremists. Because those extremists hide behind ordinary Muslims. If I posted pictures of the death and destruction caused by far right terrorism would it justify me lumping you in with them? Nobody has said we shouldn't take steps against extremists, alienating all Muslims helps, not hinders Muslim extremists IMHO. |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 17, 2023 6:56:48 GMT
If it's a tiny percentage it's hardly fair to judge all Muslims by their example, anymore than it would be to judge you by the example of far right extremists. You appear to be relaxed about the fact that MI5 are monitoring no fewar than 39,000 Muslim terror suspects in this non Islamic country, and I have to say, few will be surprised. Quote me saying I was relaxed about it or retract this statement please. |
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Post by happyhornet on Nov 17, 2023 6:59:48 GMT
Which would make up what % of UK Muslims? Interesting question. You can however consider the figures in another way if 90% of terror suspects are coming from a community that comprises about 6% ( approx 4 million people) of the population and 10% is coming from the other 95% (approx 62 million people) do you think there is a problem within a specific community? Do you think treating an entire community with fear and suspicion makes them more or less likely to sympathise with the extremists in their community? |
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