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Post by sandypine on Oct 30, 2023 22:22:22 GMT
Live peacefully perhaps. Everything may be controlled by Israel (although how they control Raffah which is an Egyptian border is an interesting question) but it seems HAMAS could still dig hundreds of miles of tunnels, assemble thousands of missiles and arm themselves effectively one assumes to the disadvantage of, and at the cost to, the majority of the Gaza population. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 30, 2023 22:49:56 GMT
well your 'debate' seems to simply consist of saying how bad Netanyahu is and how everything is his fault even when he has nothing to do with it. Care to comment on the fact that the Palestinians rejected the Camp David proposal of a 2 State Solution based on the 1967 Borders? Well other than they rejected it instead of continuing to negotiate, you care to comment on why Hamas are where they are due to Netanyahu? Again you are back to Netanyahu? - can you not put your dislike of the guy aside for one minute and answer the question? |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 30, 2023 22:53:59 GMT
And again - what has the government of Gaza done about that in the last 20 years?. Why have they not invested and instead of using the money and supplies to build tunnels and built water plants and power stations, rather than remaining reliant on Israel. In a war it is not the responsibility of one side to ensure that the lights stay on in the enemy's territory. What could the Palestinians do when everything is controlled by Israel. Everything? - Hamas have constructed a vast network of underground tunnels and other infrastructure that they boast about. And yet we are supposed to believe you when you tell us that they could not build a water treatment plant or a power station... Vast amounts of money have been pumped into Gaza over the past 20 years - where has it all gone? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 31, 2023 0:11:25 GMT
This is a ridiculous statement and an insult to those that care about all lives. You cannot conflate anti-Semitism with Islamophobia they are both racism and need to be eradicated. Islamophobia can lead to the attacking of Muslims and is therefore illegal. "Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness". HOC Library. Racism is illegal. You are correct, anti-Semitism cannot be conflated with Islamophobia it's too stupid for words. Why? Because anti-Semitism is an historical fact it goes back thousands of years, to a time before Abraham. Islamophobia on the other hand is a modern day trendy bastardisation used by clueless lefties to shout down anyone who isn't on board with the Islamification of the UK. And Redders, racism is only illegal if it's against minorities. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 31, 2023 1:12:42 GMT
What could the Palestinians do when everything is controlled by Israel. Everything? - Hamas have constructed a vast network of underground tunnels and other infrastructure that they boast about. And yet we are supposed to believe you when you tell us that they could not build a water treatment plant or a power station... Vast amounts of money have been pumped into Gaza over the past 20 years - where has it all gone? Gaza city has 3 desalination plants but they have no power to run them. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 31, 2023 2:22:37 GMT
Everything? - Hamas have constructed a vast network of underground tunnels and other infrastructure that they boast about. And yet we are supposed to believe you when you tell us that they could not build a water treatment plant or a power station... Vast amounts of money have been pumped into Gaza over the past 20 years - where has it all gone? Gaza city has 3 desalination plants but they have no power to run them. Perhaps Hamas should have considered this before they attacked Israel. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 31, 2023 4:55:34 GMT
Well other than they rejected it instead of continuing to negotiate, you care to comment on why Hamas are where they are due to Netanyahu? Again you are back to Netanyahu? - can you not put your dislike of the guy aside for one minute and answer the question? I just did answer,something you do every time. What we can rely on is your one sided view and failure to recognise there is more than that one side to this story. |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 31, 2023 5:06:05 GMT
What could the Palestinians do when everything is controlled by Israel. Everything? - Hamas have constructed a vast network of underground tunnels and other infrastructure that they boast about. And yet we are supposed to believe you when you tell us that they could not build a water treatment plant or a power station... Vast amounts of money have been pumped into Gaza over the past 20 years - where has it all gone?Which should read and edited for accuracy. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 31, 2023 8:22:19 GMT
Everything? - Hamas have constructed a vast network of underground tunnels and other infrastructure that they boast about. And yet we are supposed to believe you when you tell us that they could not build a water treatment plant or a power station... Vast amounts of money have been pumped into Gaza over the past 20 years - where has it all gone? Gaza city has 3 desalination plants but they have no power to run them. Why not? - why have the Palestinian Government not invested?. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 31, 2023 8:23:04 GMT
Everything? - Hamas have constructed a vast network of underground tunnels and other infrastructure that they boast about. And yet we are supposed to believe you when you tell us that they could not build a water treatment plant or a power station... Vast amounts of money have been pumped into Gaza over the past 20 years - where has it all gone?Which should read and edited for accuracy. oh dear - we are back to this obsession with Netanyahu.. yes, we all know he is a bad, bad, man - can we move on now? |
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Post by wapentake on Oct 31, 2023 8:45:59 GMT
Which should read and edited for accuracy. oh dear - we are back to this obsession with Netanyahu.. yes, we all know he is a bad, bad, man - can we move on now? Why can you move on from your obsession they didn’t agree to the two state solution which is ancient history as you point out (when it suits)  |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 31, 2023 9:55:20 GMT
Gaza city has 3 desalination plants but they have no power to run them. Perhaps Hamas should have considered this before they attacked Israel. Perhaps Israel should consider international law and stop collectively punishing the whole of the Gaza strip for the crimes of Hamas. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 31, 2023 9:59:50 GMT
Gaza city has 3 desalination plants but they have no power to run them. Why not? - why have the Palestinian Government not invested?. They have. They have solar plants and back up generators but the IDF is destroying the infrastructure and denying them fuel. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 31, 2023 11:05:40 GMT
Perhaps Hamas should have considered this before they attacked Israel. Perhaps Israel should consider international law and stop collectively punishing the whole of the Gaza strip for the crimes of Hamas. And do you think Israel should consider international law before or after it's attacked? Don't forget the world is talking about this because Hamas terrorists attacked Israel, I suspect you consider that to be a piffling detail. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 31, 2023 11:17:31 GMT
Gazans who oppose Hamas are killed and dragged through the streets.
Democracy ended there in 2006.
It's not good to simply blame Israel for everything Morayloon.
Blame Hamas for their crimes.
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