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Post by Pacifico on Nov 3, 2023 8:18:47 GMT
Ben Shapiro not taking any prisoners...  |
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Post by see2 on Nov 3, 2023 9:16:31 GMT
Ben Shapiro not taking any prisoners... __" If Israel put down its guns tomorrow there would be second holocaust. If the Palestinians put down their guns tomorrow there would be a Palestinian state".__ That's the truth in a nut shell. Pamphlets and Placards of it should be distributed all around the world. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 4, 2023 7:51:10 GMT
Good article by Andrew Neil on how useless the UN are - so it's hardly surprising that Israel have stopped listening.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2023 10:11:49 GMT
Blinken now thinks that when Israel have finished with Hamas they should back the fabled two state solution to peace.
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Post by see2 on Nov 4, 2023 11:06:54 GMT
Blinken now thinks that when Israel have finished with Hamas they should back the fabled two state solution to peace. I don't think there is a snowball in hell's chance of the two state solution now. As the Arabs have some real reason to say 'poor me'. Something they never had in 1947/48 when they rejected the Two State solution and threatened to destroy the state of Israel if it ever materialised. That was a major Mistake by the Arabs, made worse for them by losing the first war to annihilate Israel. |
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Post by oracle75 on Nov 7, 2023 8:06:21 GMT
Nakbah, lit. 'the "disaster", "catastrophe", or "cataclysm"'),[1] also known as the Palestinian Catastrophe, was the violent displacement and dispossession of Palestinians, and the destruction of their society, culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations.[2] The term is used to describe both the events of 1948, as well as the ongoing occupation of the Palestinian territories (the West Bank and the Gaza Strip) and persecution and displacement of Palestinians throughout the region.[3][4][5][6][7] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba#:~:text=The%20Nakba%20(Arabic%3A%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D9%83%D8%A8%D8%A9%2C,political%20rights%2C%20and%20national%20aspirations. Of course Palestine rejected a two state solution. It had just suffered an attempt to wipe it off the face of the earth. It had every right to consider itself a victim when they were forced out of their own homes. This was the start of the ongoing Israeli zionist dream to be rid of Palestine and to claim it for themselves. Israel has consistently robbed Gaza and Palestine of the capacity to exist as an independent state and has zero respect for international law, yet asks the international community to recognise it as a victim. No one discusses the thousands of Palestinian prisoners including children held in Israeli jails with no prospect of a trial. www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/10/21/number-of-palestinian-prisoners-in-israel-doubles-to-10000-in-two-weekswww.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/8/why-are-so-many-palestinian-prisoners-in-israeli-jailsIf you read the whole article, it is stated that under the 4th Geneva Convention, such mass imprisonment without trial is illegal. If the law wont protect Palestinian people, it is inevitable that someone has to. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 7, 2023 11:13:16 GMT
Nakbah, lit. 'the "disaster", "catastrophe", or "cataclysm"'),[1] also known as the Palestinian Catastrophe, was the violent displacement and dispossession of Palestinians, and the destruction of their society, culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations.[2] The term is used to describe both the events of 1948, as well as the ongoing occupation of the Palestinian territories (the West Bank and the Gaza Strip) and persecution and displacement of Palestinians throughout the region.[3][4][5][6][7] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba#:~:text=The%20Nakba%20(Arabic%3A%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D9%83%D8%A8%D8%A9%2C,political%20rights%2C%20and%20national%20aspirations. Of course Palestine rejected a two state solution. It had just suffered an attempt to wipe it off the face of the earth. It had every right to consider itself a victim when they were forced out of their own homes. This was the start of the ongoing Israeli zionist dream to be rid of Palestine and to claim it for themselves. Israel has consistently robbed Gaza and Palestine of the capacity to exist as an independent state and has zero respect for international law, yet asks the international community to recognise it as a victim. No one discusses the thousands of Palestinian prisoners including children held in Israeli jails with no prospect of a trial. www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/10/21/number-of-palestinian-prisoners-in-israel-doubles-to-10000-in-two-weekswww.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/8/why-are-so-many-palestinian-prisoners-in-israeli-jailsIf you read the whole article, it is stated that under the 4th Geneva Convention, such mass imprisonment without trial is illegal. If the law wont protect Palestinian people, it is inevitable that someone has to. The Arabs rejected the Two State solution in 1947, months before the Israelis declared Independence. Why did they do it at that time? It was the Israelis who survived the Arab attempt to wipe them of the face of the earth, no such attempt was ever made by the Israelis against the Arabs. The events of 1948 and the movement of Arabs, was down to the Arabs not wanting to get caught between the 5 Arab armies that were about to 'wipe Israel off the face of the earth and the Israeli army there to defend Israel. It doesn't take much grey matter to work out that caught between two armies fighting each other was not the best place for any family or anyone else to be. You have a trait and an ability to stand facts on their head ^^^ Israel has constantly been denied the right to live in peace, free from such acts as wars and terrorism. Until you get the basics right, you wont even begin to understand any of the following events. |
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Post by oracle75 on Nov 7, 2023 11:29:06 GMT
I was talking about the Nakba.
Please stop changing the subject.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 13:20:16 GMT
I was talking about the Nakba. Please stop changing the subject. The subject is "The twice promised land". You like to talk about Nakba, and what you posted has been clearly demolished. The Palestinians try to conflate "Nakba" and "Shoha". You have a great ability to see "facts" in a very special way. Black is definitely white for you. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 7, 2023 14:14:49 GMT
I was talking about the Nakba. Please stop changing the subject. Cherry picking single events which belie the full picture, is the best you have managed so far. As I posted previously, until you get the basics right, which you haven't managed so far, you cannot fully or properly understand the following events. |
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Post by oracle75 on Nov 7, 2023 16:23:26 GMT
I was talking about the Nakba. Please stop changing the subject. Cherry picking single events which belie the full picture, is the best you have managed so far. As I posted previously, until you get the basics right, which you haven't managed so far, you cannot fully or properly understand the following events. See2...when are you going to understand this: I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK AND I WILL NOT WASTE MY TIME HAVING AN ARGUMENT ABOUT AN ARGUMENT. Now run along and start a pointless scrap with somomeone else who cares and takes you seriously enough to be your sparring partner. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 8, 2023 9:53:27 GMT
Cherry picking single events which belie the full picture, is the best you have managed so far. As I posted previously, until you get the basics right, which you haven't managed so far, you cannot fully or properly understand the following events. See2...when are you going to understand this: I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK AND I WILL NOT WASTE MY TIME HAVING AN ARGUMENT ABOUT AN ARGUMENT. Now run along and start a pointless scrap with somomeone else who cares and takes you seriously enough to be your sparring partner. Thanks, that ^^^ was so chuckle worthy, and it further exposes yourself as being ill-informed and rather naive. I guess that's part of the reason for not giving your age when suggested. Your opinions were so poor that I won't miss them. |
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