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Post by wapentake on Oct 10, 2023 8:11:46 GMT
And there you have it - their industrial revolution is a crime we are committing. You seems to miss the point that our industrial revolution was as necessary and moral as theirs. This seems to fly under your radar each time because (IMHO) your target is us and you don't (refuse to) see the inconsistency. I put that line in for you deliberately, so you have something to talk about as you are uninterested in the truth. Fact is the Co2 in the atmosphere is us, we did do it. Now you want China to clear it up for us. Personally I want ALL OF US to clear it up. You want to go about your merry way and blame foreigners just like you do for all our ills. You represent a nation of weak greedy people blaming everyone else for the things we caused. Economy, blame illegal immigrants, even though their effect is miniscule 0.003% Crime, the same. Housing, the same. NHS, rainbow crossings and diversity managers. Schools, leftie teachers Its not us, its them. So weak we can't stand up and be counted. You disgust me To that in bold and your assertion that is down to us as a nation and we did do it,clearly you didn’t read a post I made elsewhere that shows historical CO2 emissions and it shows it wasn’t us was it?
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Post by zanygame on Oct 10, 2023 8:13:35 GMT
I put that line in for you deliberately, so you have something to talk about as you are uninterested in the truth. Fact is the Co2 in the atmosphere is us, we did do it. Now you want China to clear it up for us. Personally I want ALL OF US to clear it up. You want to go about your merry way and blame foreigners just like you do for all our ills. You represent a nation of weak greedy people blaming everyone else for the things we caused. Economy, blame illegal immigrants, even though their effect is miniscule 0.003% Crime, the same. Housing, the same. NHS, rainbow crossings and diversity managers. Schools, leftie teachers Its not us, its them. So weak we can't stand up and be counted. You disgust me I say, a little strong Zany, just one thing you never mention what you get out of it, which I am pretty sure benefits you personally somehow. Well there comes a point when you just get sick of weak right wing wingers blaming everyone else. And there you go again, there must be something in it for me. The idea is sown into your psyche that you don't do anything that isn't for personal gain.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 10, 2023 8:15:11 GMT
. The UN says we should use more sustainable materials in building. The Daily Sceptic says the UN says we should live in mud huts. Could you actually survive without this daily intake of made up political crap. What do you think 'rammed earth' is if not mud - get a grip of yourself.. Like brick made from baked mud. Oh, wait a minute while you catch up. Sigh.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 10, 2023 8:15:59 GMT
I say, a little strong Zany, just one thing you never mention what you get out of it, which I am pretty sure benefits you personally somehow. Well there comes a point when you just get sick of weak right wing wingers blaming everyone else. And there you go again, there must be something in it for me. The idea is sown into your psyche that you don't do anything that isn't for personal gain. But you are doing it for personal gain, it is written all over your posts as the high priest. So out with it what is in it for you and your business? Don't be the alleged victim again, just be honest, at least I will respect that.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 10, 2023 8:17:33 GMT
Absolutely and a religion it has become,an extreme one at that and history tells us what extreme religions/beliefs are capable of it’s not just the guilt for the Industrial Revolution they want to heap on us but colonialism too. Point out that the reality that there’s too many people on the planet and they ignore that and insist if it all goes wrong we must invite them here because of our imposed guilt for the past and even mentioning that’s the real problem invites the inevitable right wing racist label. Indeed. I forgot to list the other dimension of this knot. That, although our way of living is a crime, we have a moral duty to invite anyone who wants to come into our territory to enjoy it. Presumably, this is so our societies can be over-turned and a regime that builds mud huts can be created. no it wasn't you it was your forbears or lefties or foreigners or natural. It was never your fault.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 10, 2023 8:20:10 GMT
Well there comes a point when you just get sick of weak right wing wingers blaming everyone else. And there you go again, there must be something in it for me. The idea is sown into your psyche that you don't do anything that isn't for personal gain. But you are doing it for personal gain, it is written all over your posts as the high priest. So out with it what is in it for you and your business? Don't be the alleged victim again, just be honest, at least I will respect that. No I'm not. Nothing in it for me. My business is in entertainment. I'm just someone who cares. A difficult concept for you I know. Whereas you are doing it for personal gain. You don't want to tackle the UK's problems because you want to keep all your lovely loot. At least your side is easy to understand.
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Post by Orac on Oct 10, 2023 8:22:59 GMT
But you are doing it for personal gain, it is written all over your posts as the high priest. So out with it what is in it for you and your business? Don't be the alleged victim again, just be honest, at least I will respect that. No I'm not. Nothing in it for me. My business is in entertainment. I'm just someone who cares. A difficult concept for you I know. That doesn't mean you don't have interests in one of the biggest market barrier scams in human history. A lot of people do, which is largely why the delaying of net zero was met with so much wailing. Many of these people are involved in the scam.
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Post by wapentake on Oct 10, 2023 8:23:26 GMT
Indeed. I forgot to list the other dimension of this knot. That, although our way of living is a crime, we have a moral duty to invite anyone who wants to come into our territory to enjoy it. Presumably, this is so our societies can be over-turned and a regime that builds mud huts can be created. no it wasn't you it was your forbears or lefties or foreigners or natural. It was never your fault. But it wasn’t and you won’t accept that
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Post by sheepy on Oct 10, 2023 8:25:59 GMT
But you are doing it for personal gain, it is written all over your posts as the high priest. So out with it what is in it for you and your business? Don't be the alleged victim again, just be honest, at least I will respect that. No I'm not. Nothing in it for me. My business is in entertainment. I'm just someone who cares. A difficult concept for you I know. Whereas you are doing it for personal gain. You don't want to tackle the UK's problems because you want to keep all your lovely loot. At least your side is easy to understand. I don't believe you, like someone who told me once they had sold a car to someone whose driving was awful and shouldn't be on the road, so I said you let a dangerous person loose with a deadly weapon, you should be ashamed of yourself, he said why he has a license, his mate chirped in, he is swerving, he means a profit is a profit, so I pointed at him and said at least your mate knows how to be honest, I will deal with him in future.
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 10, 2023 8:42:16 GMT
@zany:
You state we blame illegal immigrants for all our current woes, as in:
"You represent a nation of weak greedy people blaming everyone else for the things we caused.
Economy, blame illegal immigrants, even though their effect is miniscule 0.003% Crime, the same. Housing, the same. NHS, rainbow crossings and diversity managers. Schools, leftie teachers"
Things we caused. What things?
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Post by zanygame on Oct 10, 2023 12:59:02 GMT
No I'm not. Nothing in it for me. My business is in entertainment. I'm just someone who cares. A difficult concept for you I know. That doesn't mean you don't have interests in one of the biggest market barrier scams in human history. A lot of people do, which is largely why the delaying of net zero was met with so much wailing. Many of these people are involved in the scam. I've said twice now that I don't. I care about people and I care about the planet. I'm sure you really struggle with the idea of caring, but that's it.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 10, 2023 13:06:31 GMT
That doesn't mean you don't have interests in one of the biggest market barrier scams in human history. A lot of people do, which is largely why the delaying of net zero was met with so much wailing. Many of these people are involved in the scam. I've said twice now that I don't. I care about people and I care about the planet. I'm sure you really struggle with the idea of caring, but that's it. That post could suggest a great deal of virtue signalling in three sentences . The idea that the ones who want the UK to rush blindly into net zero care and the ones who fear that the UK will impoverish itself with very little effect on global emissions do not is really quite sickening .
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Post by zanygame on Oct 10, 2023 13:13:47 GMT
@zany: You state we blame illegal immigrants for all our current woes, as in: "You represent a nation of weak greedy people blaming everyone else for the things we caused. Economy, blame illegal immigrants, even though their effect is miniscule 0.003% Crime, the same. Housing, the same. NHS, rainbow crossings and diversity managers. Schools, leftie teachers" Things we caused. What things? Things we are responsible for. The state of our roads, NHS, Housing, Immigration, education, policing, crime. They are us. We don't want to pay more tax but we want all the new goodies. We refuse to recognise the wealth gap causes crime, because we all want more for ourselves. We invite 500,000+ people to come here so we can get the growth we need to keep our tax from rising, but we don't want to build homes for them. We elect governments that promise low tax and that's what we get. In the meantime the right wing press urge us to blame illegal immigrants, like the few million they cost touches the sides. That doesn't mean they aren't a problem, just that they aren't THE problem
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Post by zanygame on Oct 10, 2023 13:16:20 GMT
I've said twice now that I don't. I care about people and I care about the planet. I'm sure you really struggle with the idea of caring, but that's it. That post could suggest a great deal of virtue signalling in three sentences . The idea that the ones who want the UK to rush blindly into net zero care and the ones who fear that the UK will impoverish itself with very little effect on global emissions do not is really quite sickening . Yeah whatever roll out the virtue signalling and the snowflake. Labels to silence people. Well I care about people so I'm a snowflake and I say I care about people so I'm a virtue signaller. NEVER LET THE NAME CALLING STOP YOU CARING OR SAYING YOU CARE.
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Post by Orac on Oct 10, 2023 13:33:16 GMT
@zany: You state we blame illegal immigrants for all our current woes, as in: "You represent a nation of weak greedy people blaming everyone else for the things we caused. Economy, blame illegal immigrants, even though their effect is miniscule 0.003% Crime, the same. Housing, the same. NHS, rainbow crossings and diversity managers. Schools, leftie teachers" Things we caused. What things? We invite 500,000+ people to come here so we can get the growth we need to keep our tax from rising, but we don't want to build homes for them. Yet another attempt to screw the people of the UK. If immigrants really were the economic silver bullet you implicitly claim, we wouldn't feel the extra cost of building houses for them (see the definition of the word 'costs' vs the word 'benefits' in a dictionary). One reason people complain is because it is clearly a net drain. It's great for expanding the power of the public sector though, as British society and the independent economic viability is gradually eroded
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