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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2023 15:30:03 GMT
A Human Rights Bill for Scotland: consultation
The Scottish Government is gathering views to help inform how we will take forward the Human Rights Bill. The Bill will incorporate a range of economic, social and cultural rights into Scots law for the first time, as far as possible within the limits of devolved competence.
www.gov.scot/publications/human-rights-bill-scotland-consultation/ |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 1, 2023 17:32:03 GMT
The right to adequate food
The right to clothing
The right to adequate housing
Not sure how you would achieve these - also the rights with regard to health services could have some very unintended consequences.
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Post by thomas on Oct 1, 2023 17:36:46 GMT
The right to adequate food
The right to clothing
The right to adequate housing
Not sure how you would achieve these - also the rights with regard to health services could have some very unintended consequences. be interesting to see what happens. The big question first and foremost is , will westmisnter block a scottish human rights bill ? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2023 21:01:38 GMT
The right to adequate food
The right to clothing
The right to adequate housing
Not sure how you would achieve these - also the rights with regard to health services could have some very unintended consequences. I'm guessing it's party politics and attempts for further balkanisation, so it doesn't need to be realistic or even required (I didn't know they had a nakedness problem, too). It just needs to be a thing to reach that small euphoric high. One small step...
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 1, 2023 21:03:15 GMT
The right to adequate food
The right to clothing
The right to adequate housing
Not sure how you would achieve these - also the rights with regard to health services could have some very unintended consequences. be interesting to see what happens. The big question first and foremost is , will westmisnter block a scottish human rights bill ? Dont see why - if the Scottish Government want to guarantee all those things then thats up to them. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 2, 2023 6:19:42 GMT
be interesting to see what happens. The big question first and foremost is , will westmisnter block a scottish human rights bill ? Dont see why - if the Scottish Government want to guarantee all those things then thats up to them. not according to your man in scotland , the sos alistair jack , who appeares to have declared war on the scottish government and is talking about constantly by passing the democratically elected scottish government on many issues.
so a man representing a party that hasnt won an election in scotland for three quarters of a century , in an office that should have been made defunct with the onset of devolution , is talking constantly about undermining or overturning scot government decisions on a regular basis.
Such is british democracy .
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 2, 2023 6:28:18 GMT
Well he is talking about Scotland making Laws that impinge on the rest of the country where they have no jurisdiction - the Gender Bill being the prime example.
If the Scots want to guarantee clothes and food to people living in Scotland then feel free.
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Post by thomas on Oct 2, 2023 6:43:43 GMT
Well he is talking about Scotland making Laws that impinge on the rest of the country where they have no jurisdiction - the Gender Bill being the prime example. If the Scots want to guarantee clothes and food to people living in Scotland then feel free. scottish law is seperate to english law , and neither laws impinge on either country. I didnt agree with the scottish gender bill , but this wasnt about a scottish law impinging on english law , which is impossible , but more about westmisnter trying to keep scotland and england largely in cohesion where possible .something different entirely. The argument was equality law is reserved to westminster to legislate on uk wide across the different legal systems.
i appreciate what you , an oridnary guy on an obscure forum is saying , but its not about your permission . The british government has consistently shown it will interfere in scottish democracy when it wants to. Scottish laws diverging from english laws , as per your gender bill example , are of course a complete no no to them.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 2, 2023 7:06:31 GMT
Well he is talking about Scotland making Laws that impinge on the rest of the country where they have no jurisdiction - the Gender Bill being the prime example. If the Scots want to guarantee clothes and food to people living in Scotland then feel free. scottish law is seperate to english law , and neither laws impinge on either country. I didnt agree with the scottish gender bill , but this wasnt about a scottish law impinging on english law , which is impossible , but more about westmisnter trying to keep scotland and england largely in cohesion where possible .something different entirely. The argument was equality law is reserved to westminster to legislate on uk wide across the different legal systems.
No - it was about Scottish Law impinging on UK Law. For example how would pensions be calculated if a person was considered a woman in Scotland but a Man in the rest of the UK. This was just daft overreach by the SNP. |
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Post by om15 on Oct 2, 2023 7:30:33 GMT
Will the Scots have a right for ferries?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 7:36:28 GMT
Well he is talking about Scotland making Laws that impinge on the rest of the country where they have no jurisdiction - the Gender Bill being the prime example. If the Scots want to guarantee clothes and food to people living in Scotland then feel free. scottish law is seperate to english law , and neither laws impinge on either country. I didnt agree with the scottish gender bill , but this wasnt about a scottish law impinging on english law , which is impossible , but more about westmisnter trying to keep scotland and england largely in cohesion where possible .something different entirely. The argument was equality law is reserved to westminster to legislate on uk wide across the different legal systems.
i appreciate what you , an oridnary guy on an obscure forum is saying , but its not about your permission . The british government has consistently shown it will interfere in scottish democracy when it wants to. Scottish laws diverging from english laws , as per your gender bill example , are of course a complete no no to them.
Scotland does not work well in a democracy, which is why they don't accept the result of democracy and rely on a totalitarian regime and the brainwashing of kids.
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Post by thomas on Oct 2, 2023 7:39:29 GMT
scottish law is seperate to english law , and neither laws impinge on either country. I didnt agree with the scottish gender bill , but this wasnt about a scottish law impinging on english law , which is impossible , but more about westmisnter trying to keep scotland and england largely in cohesion where possible .something different entirely. The argument was equality law is reserved to westminster to legislate on uk wide across the different legal systems.
i appreciate what you , an oridnary guy on an obscure forum is saying , but its not about your permission . The british government has consistently shown it will interfere in scottish democracy when it wants to. Scottish laws diverging from english laws , as per your gender bill example , are of course a complete no no to them.
Scotland does not work well in a democracy, which is why they don't accept the result of democracy and rely on a totalitarian regime and the brainwashing of kids.
are you snivelling on the correct thread b4?
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Post by thomas on Oct 2, 2023 7:41:35 GMT
Will the Scots have a right for ferries? we should name our ferries hs1 and hs2 and you will never mention them ever again. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2023 7:44:38 GMT
Scotland does not work well in a democracy, which is why they don't accept the result of democracy and rely on a totalitarian regime and the brainwashing of kids.
are you snivelling on the correct thread b4?
I guess this forum is too heavily trolled by the SNP to be of any use in the democratic process. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 2, 2023 7:52:11 GMT
scottish law is seperate to english law , and neither laws impinge on either country. I didnt agree with the scottish gender bill , but this wasnt about a scottish law impinging on english law , which is impossible , but more about westmisnter trying to keep scotland and england largely in cohesion where possible .something different entirely. The argument was equality law is reserved to westminster to legislate on uk wide across the different legal systems.
No - it was about Scottish Law impinging on UK Law. For example how would pensions be calculated if a person was considered a woman in Scotland but a Man in the rest of the UK. This was just daft overreach by the SNP. it can be a hard slog in here at times. People who daily extol the virtues , whatever they are alleged to be , of their bwitain , cant even grasp the basics of the multi national state and how it works.
scottish law cannot impinge on english law. there is no such thng as uk law , for the millionth time pacifico.
You dont quite understand the difference between legislators in the devolved and westmisnter parliament , who can be scottish welsh northern irish or british , who then pass legisaltion into scottish or english(n irish) law. That why mate when we have education acts , or nhs acts , that are legislated on by the uk parliament , there is always a seperate scotland act to the england one.
how is a uk pension currently calculated for someone who has an entitlement that is considered a woman in France , or the republic of ireland , but a man in your yookay?
no it was simply the opposite , mere overreach by your parliament into areas they had clearly devolved and now dont like , by a party that hasnt won an election in scotland for three quarters of a century. If you dont like devolution , the settled will of the scottish people , get the tories elected on a ban devolution manifesto to holyrood and ban devloution instead of overreaching from westmsinter .
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