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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 7:01:17 GMT
There is no contradiction. Voting and porn are worlds apart. Women of all ages including 60 year olds are being exploited by men on a daily basis but you seem to think voting is akin to doing porn, jeez. Do you think being able to decide who to vote for and whether to do porn are equivalent? If, as you say, 16 year olds do not have the capacity to make informed decisions about Porn what other aspects of life are they incapable of making informed decisions about? Porn is, by it's very nature a coercive environment and those participating in it are putting themselves in harms way. It is, wrongly in my opinion, allowed at the age of 18 but that does not take away the risk. 16 year olds should be protected from exploitation, don't you think that's right? But of course you will not give a clear answer because, as I said previously those on the right do not. Voting is an entirely different thing and subject to the coercive and life changing possibilities of porn. Really silly comparison. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 8:47:00 GMT
“Children who pay tax should vote “does not mean” all children should pay tax” . You are either too thick to realise or you are trolling . Possibly both. You are quoting something I said and extrapolating wrongly. 7 year olds should not vote, they are spending money given to them by their parents or carers. 16 year olds are eligible to pay tax and should therefore vote. You are attempting to confuse a simple situation and resorting to insults to sound clever, it has the opposite effect. You are making up your own arbitrary rules on the fly . One set of children cant vote and another set of children can vote because their money comes from different sources ? Absolute bollocks . |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 10:27:20 GMT
You are quoting something I said and extrapolating wrongly. 7 year olds should not vote, they are spending money given to them by their parents or carers. 16 year olds are eligible to pay tax and should therefore vote. You are attempting to confuse a simple situation and resorting to insults to sound clever, it has the opposite effect. You are making up your own arbitrary rules on the fly . One set of children cant vote and another set of children can vote because their money comes from different sources ? Absolute bollocks . 7 years old should not, 16 year old should be able to. 16 year olds are liable for tax if they earn enough money. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 11:32:24 GMT
You are making up your own arbitrary rules on the fly . One set of children cant vote and another set of children can vote because their money comes from different sources ? Absolute bollocks . 7 years old should not, 16 year old should be able to. 16 year olds are liable for tax if they earn enough money. 7 year olds pay tax if they buy certain goods . Your criteria to vote is ridiculous . |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 11:51:50 GMT
7 years old should not, 16 year old should be able to. 16 year olds are liable for tax if they earn enough money. 7 year olds pay tax if they buy certain goods . Your criteria to vote is ridiculous . No they don't their parents or carers pay the tax. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 11:58:53 GMT
7 year olds pay tax if they buy certain goods . Your criteria to vote is ridiculous . No they don't their parents or carers pay the tax. If it’s pocket money then it’s theirs . What next? Children who have a paper round should be able to vote ? Would a 30 year old loving in their parents money have the vote taken away ? Your premise is a rabbit hole of nonsense . |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 4:09:34 GMT
No they don't their parents or carers pay the tax. If it’s pocket money then it’s theirs . What next? Children who have a paper round should be able to vote ? Would a 30 year old loving in their parents money have the vote taken away ? Your premise is a rabbit hole of nonsense . You are arguing semantics so I will, 7 year olds do not earn it. Most 16 year olds that get 'pocket money from parents do odd jobs to earn it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 5:56:11 GMT
No they don't their parents or carers pay the tax. If it’s pocket money then it’s theirs . What next? Children who have a paper round should be able to vote ? Would a 30 year old loving in their parents money have the vote taken away ? Your premise is a rabbit hole of nonsense . Red Rum sucks up to the political classes. The feeling of money falling on their bobbing head is what they're really into.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 6:28:00 GMT
If, as you say, 16 year olds do not have the capacity to make informed decisions about Porn what other aspects of life are they incapable of making informed decisions about? Porn is, by it's very nature a coercive environment and those participating in it are putting themselves in harms way. It is, wrongly in my opinion, allowed at the age of 18 but that does not take away the risk. 16 year olds should be protected from exploitation, don't you think that's right? But of course you will not give a clear answer because, as I said previously those on the right do not. Voting is an entirely different thing and subject to the coercive and life changing possibilities of porn. Really silly comparison. You object to consensual sex on camera for 18 years olds but insist on giving 16 years olds the vote. I think you've just proven the fact that you would give anything the vote, including the dead. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 22, 2023 7:48:11 GMT
If it’s pocket money then it’s theirs . What next? Children who have a paper round should be able to vote ? Would a 30 year old loving in their parents money have the vote taken away ? Your premise is a rabbit hole of nonsense . You are arguing semantics so I will, 7 year olds do not earn it. Most 16 year olds that get 'pocket money from parents do odd jobs to earn it. 7 year olds are capable of doing odd jobs . |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 13:22:01 GMT
Porn is, by it's very nature a coercive environment and those participating in it are putting themselves in harms way. It is, wrongly in my opinion, allowed at the age of 18 but that does not take away the risk. 16 year olds should be protected from exploitation, don't you think that's right? But of course you will not give a clear answer because, as I said previously those on the right do not. Voting is an entirely different thing and subject to the coercive and life changing possibilities of porn. Really silly comparison. You object to consensual sex on camera for 18 years olds but insist on giving 16 years olds the vote. I think you've just proven the fact that you would give anything the vote, including the dead. Are the circumstances around porn the same as the circumstances around voting. Why are you not against the exploitation and possible trafficking of women? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 13:22:53 GMT
You are arguing semantics so I will, 7 year olds do not earn it. Most 16 year olds that get 'pocket money from parents do odd jobs to earn it. 7 year olds are capable of doing odd jobs . Now you are comparing 7 tear olds to 16 year olds, dear men |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 22, 2023 18:18:45 GMT
7 year olds are capable of doing odd jobs . Now you are comparing 7 tear olds to 16 year olds, dear men Nope. I’m pointing out your idiocy of using a criteria for children to vote that can be applied to infants . |
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Post by wapentake on Sept 22, 2023 19:11:48 GMT
If, as you say, 16 year olds do not have the capacity to make informed decisions about Porn what other aspects of life are they incapable of making informed decisions about? Porn is, by it's very nature a coercive environment and those participating in it are putting themselves in harms way. It is, wrongly in my opinion, allowed at the age of 18 but that does not take away the risk . 16 year olds should be protected from exploitation, don't you think that's right?But of course you will not give a clear answer because, as I said previously those on the right do not. Voting is an entirely different thing and subject to the coercive and life changing possibilities of porn. Really silly comparison. 16 year olds protected from exploitation by porn because you believe them unable to understand what is really occurring in that situation,ok so it logically follows they are unable to understand what is happening in a political situation and they can and will be exploited by unscrupulous politicians after all that’s what’s really happening here isn’t it they are seen as an easy source of votes and because of their lack of life experience are easily and in this case cynically used. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2023 20:15:14 GMT
You object to consensual sex on camera for 18 years olds but insist on giving 16 years olds the vote. I think you've just proven the fact that you would give anything the vote, including the dead. Are the circumstances around porn the same as the circumstances around voting. Why are you not against the exploitation and possible trafficking of women? It seems like you can't stop posting your dishonest strawman attacks. |
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