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Post by Bentley on Sept 20, 2023 12:15:44 GMT
So if you don’t work for your money then the money is not yours eh? Tell benefit recipients. If money is given to children the money is theirs . When they do end that money on certain goods they pay tax . Stop squirming . Being a 7 year old, which is the point I was answering, is not the same as being on benefits. Most people on benefits have paid into the system through their taxes and pay taxes on what they by with that money. 16 year olds are eligible to pay taxes. 7 year olds pay taxes when they purchase certain items . Are you saying that people that claim benefits by have never paid into the system can never vote? You are posting waffle and exceptions made up between your ears that changes every time you are questioned. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 13:25:56 GMT
Being a 7 year old, which is the point I was answering, is not the same as being on benefits. Most people on benefits have paid into the system through their taxes and pay taxes on what they by with that money. 16 year olds are eligible to pay taxes. 7 year olds pay taxes when they purchase certain items . Are you saying that people that claim benefits by have never paid into the system can never vote? You are posting waffle and exceptions made up between your ears that changes every time you are questioned. No I have not said that you are trying to equate 7 year olds to older adults, ridiculous. You are upset that 16 year olds might benefit Labour at the elections but care not for the deliberate jerrymandering of the elections by the Tories. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 20, 2023 13:44:11 GMT
7 year olds pay taxes when they purchase certain items . Are you saying that people that claim benefits by have never paid into the system can never vote? You are posting waffle and exceptions made up between your ears that changes every time you are questioned. No I have not said that you are trying to equate 7 year olds to older adults, ridiculous. You are upset that 16 year olds might benefit Labour at the elections but care not for the deliberate jerrymandering of the elections by the Tories. By pointing out that 7 year olds pay tax , I am highlighting how ridiculous your ‘ children who pay tax should vote ‘ premise is. The rest of your post is a nonsensical,bitter rant constructed between your ears . |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 20, 2023 13:49:46 GMT
But you have just said that 16 year olds should not be allowed that choice no matter how well informed they are. Why are they not allowed to choose what work they do if they have access to all the information they need at the touch of a button? No I did not, you are attempting to put words in my mouth. Voting relies on information, porn is exploitation. They are allowed to do any work providing the requisite training has taken place, they are not barred. So we are back to you deciding what is exploitation - individuals (be they 16 or 60) are not allowed to decide for themselves however well informed they are. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 13:51:55 GMT
No I have not said that you are trying to equate 7 year olds to older adults, ridiculous. You are upset that 16 year olds might benefit Labour at the elections but care not for the deliberate jerrymandering of the elections by the Tories. By pointing out that 7 year olds pay tax , I am highlighting how ridiculous your ‘ children who pay tax should vote ‘ premise is. The rest of your post is a nonsensical,bitter rant constructed between your ears . I did not say that all children should pay tax, stop aking things up. Why is it bitter, I believe 16 year olds should be allowed to vote, just a simple comment. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 13:54:27 GMT
No I did not, you are attempting to put words in my mouth. Voting relies on information, porn is exploitation. They are allowed to do any work providing the requisite training has taken place, they are not barred. So we are back to you deciding what is exploitation - individuals (be they 16 or 60) are not allowed to decide for themselves however well informed they are. You do not believe that young girls get exploited? Voting is simple and safe, porn comes with inherent dangers, how you can compare the two is beyond me. Voting for something you want is a world away from engaging in porn. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 20, 2023 16:19:29 GMT
By pointing out that 7 year olds pay tax , I am highlighting how ridiculous your ‘ children who pay tax should vote ‘ premise is. The rest of your post is a nonsensical,bitter rant constructed between your ears . I did not say that all children should pay tax, stop aking things up. Why is it bitter, I believe 16 year olds should be allowed to vote, just a simple comment. I never said that you said that all children should pay tax, don’t lie. |
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Post by om15 on Sept 20, 2023 16:27:35 GMT
Yes, I totally agree with that, every so often you hit the nail on the head.
The people who cannot get over Brexit being the leftie remainers of course, the rest of us warmly embrace Brexit as part of our lives, and very enjoyable it is too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 17:14:04 GMT
I did not say that all children should pay tax, stop aking things up. Why is it bitter, I believe 16 year olds should be allowed to vote, just a simple comment. I never said that you said that all children should pay tax, don’t lie. "By pointing out that 7 year olds pay tax , I am highlighting how ridiculous your ‘ children who pay tax should vote ‘ premise is." You make no differentiation. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 20, 2023 17:15:32 GMT
So we are back to you deciding what is exploitation - individuals (be they 16 or 60) are not allowed to decide for themselves however well informed they are. You do not believe that young girls get exploited? Voting is simple and safe, porn comes with inherent dangers, how you can compare the two is beyond me. Voting for something you want is a world away from engaging in porn. I'm simply pointing out the contradiction in your argument. One minute 16 years olds have the capacity to make informed decisions..and the next, they don't.. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 17:16:37 GMT
Yes, I totally agree with that, every so often you hit the nail on the head. The people who cannot get over Brexit being the leftie remainers of course, the rest of us warmly embrace Brexit as part of our lives, and very enjoyable it is too. I voted leave and very quickly realised my mistake but lets be honest Brexit has not worked and will never work. Putting up barriers between us and our nearest trading block was always going to end in tears. Isolationism in a global world is just plain stupid. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 17:19:42 GMT
You do not believe that young girls get exploited? Voting is simple and safe, porn comes with inherent dangers, how you can compare the two is beyond me. Voting for something you want is a world away from engaging in porn. I'm simply pointing out the contradiction in your argument. One minute 16 years olds have the capacity to make informed decisions..and the next, they don't.. There is no contradiction. Voting and porn are worlds apart. Women of all ages including 60 year olds are being exploited by men on a daily basis but you seem to think voting is akin to doing porn, jeez. Do you think being able to decide who to vote for and whether to do porn are equivalent? |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 20, 2023 17:43:15 GMT
I'm simply pointing out the contradiction in your argument. One minute 16 years olds have the capacity to make informed decisions..and the next, they don't.. There is no contradiction. Voting and porn are worlds apart. Women of all ages including 60 year olds are being exploited by men on a daily basis but you seem to think voting is akin to doing porn, jeez. Do you think being able to decide who to vote for and whether to do porn are equivalent? If, as you say, 16 year olds do not have the capacity to make informed decisions about Porn what other aspects of life are they incapable of making informed decisions about? |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 20, 2023 17:52:27 GMT
I never said that you said that all children should pay tax, don’t lie. "By pointing out that 7 year olds pay tax , I am highlighting how ridiculous your ‘ children who pay tax should vote ‘ premise is." You make no differentiation. “Children who pay tax should vote “does not mean” all children should pay tax” . You are either too thick to realise or you are trolling . Possibly both. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 6:56:10 GMT
"By pointing out that 7 year olds pay tax , I am highlighting how ridiculous your ‘ children who pay tax should vote ‘ premise is." You make no differentiation. “Children who pay tax should vote “does not mean” all children should pay tax” . You are either too thick to realise or you are trolling . Possibly both. You are quoting something I said and extrapolating wrongly. 7 year olds should not vote, they are spending money given to them by their parents or carers. 16 year olds are eligible to pay tax and should therefore vote. You are attempting to confuse a simple situation and resorting to insults to sound clever, it has the opposite effect. |
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