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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 9:56:36 GMT
The USA decided on 18 years. They also have age confusion, as it is illegal to buy alcohol until 21. Age of sexual consent is 16, 17 or 18 depending upon which state they live in. On voting the USA have it right, imo. You seem to have forgotten the 13, 14, 15 year olds. What has the UK got to do with what happens in the US? |
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Post by Ripley on Sept 23, 2023 16:36:32 GMT
The USA decided on 18 years. They also have age confusion, as it is illegal to buy alcohol until 21. Age of sexual consent is 16, 17 or 18 depending upon which state they live in. On voting the USA have it right, imo. It might have something to do with the fact that the minimum age for enlistment in the US Army is 17 years with parental consent or 18 years without parental consent. The rationale may be that if you can risk your life in combat for your country, you should be allowed to vote. |
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Post by ratcliff on Sept 23, 2023 22:15:38 GMT
Children can leave school on the last Friday in June of the school year in which they reach 16 years of age. They must however do one of the following until they are 18: stay in full-time education, e.g. at a college. start an apprenticeship or traineeship
16 year olds are children and must be in full time education until the age of 18
ie they are in an adult controlled environment until the age of 18 But, you can only leave school at the age of 16 if you are continuing through to the age of 18 years old in one of the following: Work-based learning (e.g. you become an apprentice or find a traineeship program). Full-time education (e.g. at school or a college). Part-time education or accredited training (spending at least 20 hours per week working or volunteering ). As I stated ie they are in an adult controlled environment until the age of 18 |
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Post by ratcliff on Sept 23, 2023 22:17:12 GMT
Rubbish, a contract 'signed' by a minor is summarily voidable in law Minors (those under the age of 18) do not have full capacity to enter into agreements. The rules which apply to minors are a mixture of common law and statute, and depend on when the contract was made. Contracts entered into after 9th June 1987 are subject to the Minors Contracts Act 1987.Minors can sign and enter into many types of contracts, such as for summer jobs, acting gigs, or car purchases1. However, whether these contracts are enforceable is not straightforward. There are some exceptions to voidable contracts that are enforceable2: Necessities: A minor can enter into a contract for a necessity, which will be enforceable. Bank Accounts: Courts will generally require a minor to follow the terms of the banking agreement. Contracts Co-signed by Parents: Generally, the parents of a minor won’t be bound by the contracts signed by a minor. Beneficial Contracts. Suggest you reread my post |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 5:26:38 GMT
But, you can only leave school at the age of 16 if you are continuing through to the age of 18 years old in one of the following: Work-based learning (e.g. you become an apprentice or find a traineeship program). Full-time education (e.g. at school or a college). Part-time education or accredited training (spending at least 20 hours per week working or volunteering ). As I stated ie they are in an adult controlled environment until the age of 18"Work" based i.e. earning a wage and liable for tax. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 5:27:57 GMT
Minors can sign and enter into many types of contracts, such as for summer jobs, acting gigs, or car purchases1. However, whether these contracts are enforceable is not straightforward. There are some exceptions to voidable contracts that are enforceable2: Necessities: A minor can enter into a contract for a necessity, which will be enforceable. Bank Accounts: Courts will generally require a minor to follow the terms of the banking agreement. Contracts Co-signed by Parents: Generally, the parents of a minor won’t be bound by the contracts signed by a minor. Beneficial Contracts. Suggest you reread my post Your post contradicts your statement. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 24, 2023 7:49:25 GMT
It strikes me that Labour would be better off pursuing proportional representation if they're genuinely concerned about democracy.
(No, I don't think they will either).
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Post by sheepy on Sept 24, 2023 8:18:53 GMT
I still know plenty who if they aren't part of a criminal gang out thieving which is about the only thing that keeps them off the xbox for a few hours, the rest just stay home live on their parents and get up about 3 in the afternoon after another hard night on the xbox. A good many of them are now in their 20s so giving them the vote was a bit pointless because the thought of actually being bothered with politicians and their nonsense doesn't even equate. Now if you could offer a 50% discount on the latest game they lust after, things might be different as long as it doesn't mean leaving the metaverse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 9:40:58 GMT
It strikes me that Labour would be better off pursuing proportional representation if they're genuinely concerned about democracy. (No, I don't think they will either). We wont know until their conference but, for once, I agree with you. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 24, 2023 10:56:24 GMT
But as it stands I think it's a great policy - and another nail in the coffin of Labour's electoral chances.
As we apporach the next general election every Labour policy announced will make them less and less electable.
Lovely!
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Post by sheepy on Sept 24, 2023 12:40:43 GMT
But as it stands I think it's a great policy - and another nail in the coffin of Labour's electoral chances. As we apporach the next general election every Labour policy announced will make them less and less electable. Lovely! Who exactly made them creditable in the first place? it certainly wasn't me, or anybody I know, so it must be the idiots that are so called running the country. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 13:22:22 GMT
But as it stands I think it's a great policy - and another nail in the coffin of Labour's electoral chances. As we apporach the next general election every Labour policy announced will make them less and less electable. Lovely! I must admit I have toyed with this approach. I just know it's hardly worth discussing it on here. Red Rum is on one of his pathological lying troll sessions and limited to spamming nonsense, so I see no point in wasting any more time on it. Labour's politics is gutter trash. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 5:38:35 GMT
But as it stands I think it's a great policy - and another nail in the coffin of Labour's electoral chances. As we apporach the next general election every Labour policy announced will make them less and less electable. Lovely! I must admit I have toyed with this approach. I just know it's hardly worth discussing it on here. Red Rum is on one of his pathological lying troll sessions and limited to spamming nonsense, so I see no point in wasting any more time on it. Labour's politics is gutter trash. I ask this question a lot, "show me a lie" but I never get an answer. I get differences of opinion but never a lie. You have a go. |
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