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Post by Bentley on Sept 22, 2023 20:49:44 GMT
Are the circumstances around porn the same as the circumstances around voting. Why are you not against the exploitation and possible trafficking of women? It seems like you can't stop posting your dishonest strawman attacks. You noticed that then ? 😁 |
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Post by ratcliff on Sept 22, 2023 21:25:03 GMT
To you maybe - normal people call them school kids Even if they are not at school. A person, in this country, can leave school at 16. Normal people do not call people that have left school, schoolkids,
16 year olds are children and must be in full time education until the age of 18
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Post by ratcliff on Sept 22, 2023 21:30:08 GMT
A 16 year old cannot sign a contract Of course they can and often do. Rubbish, a contract 'signed' by a minor is summarily voidable in law Minors (those under the age of 18) do not have full capacity to enter into agreements. The rules which apply to minors are a mixture of common law and statute, and depend on when the contract was made. Contracts entered into after 9th June 1987 are subject to the Minors Contracts Act 1987. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 22, 2023 21:38:26 GMT
If, as you say, 16 year olds do not have the capacity to make informed decisions about Porn what other aspects of life are they incapable of making informed decisions about? Porn is, by it's very nature a coercive environment and those participating in it are putting themselves in harms way. It is, wrongly in my opinion, allowed at the age of 18 but that does not take away the risk. 16 year olds should be protected from exploitation, don't you think that's right?
But you said, and I quote: "Nowadays young people have all the information they need at the touch of a button, they live in a vastly different world to the one we grew up in." - "Well informed people can make choices."In fact they are so well informed that they need adults to make decisions for them apparently. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 6:16:10 GMT
Now you are comparing 7 tear olds to 16 year olds, dear men Nope. I’m pointing out your idiocy of using a criteria for children to vote that can be applied to infants . It's in your mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 6:21:19 GMT
Porn is, by it's very nature a coercive environment and those participating in it are putting themselves in harms way. It is, wrongly in my opinion, allowed at the age of 18 but that does not take away the risk . 16 year olds should be protected from exploitation, don't you think that's right?But of course you will not give a clear answer because, as I said previously those on the right do not. Voting is an entirely different thing and subject to the coercive and life changing possibilities of porn. Really silly comparison. 16 year olds protected from exploitation by porn because you believe them unable to understand what is really occurring in that situation,ok so it logically follows they are unable to understand what is happening in a political situation and they can and will be exploited by unscrupulous politicians after all that’s what’s really happening here isn’t it they are seen as an easy source of votes and because of their lack of life experience are easily and in this case cynically used. Have you never been 'conned', surely you have. Some people have what used to be called the 'gift of the gab' a pleasant phrase for a conman. Being 'conned' into voting for a particular party or cause is entirely different to being 'conned' into porn, both are possible. Are we not all exploited by politicians, should we not all have our right to vote removed. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 6:23:25 GMT
Are the circumstances around porn the same as the circumstances around voting. Why are you not against the exploitation and possible trafficking of women? It seems like you can't stop posting your dishonest strawman attacks. Attacks? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 6:25:19 GMT
Even if they are not at school. A person, in this country, can leave school at 16. Normal people do not call people that have left school, schoolkids,
16 year olds are children and must be in full time education until the age of 18
ie they are in an adult controlled environment until the age of 18But, you can only leave school at the age of 16 if you are continuing through to the age of 18 years old in one of the following: Work-based learning (e.g. you become an apprentice or find a traineeship program). Full-time education (e.g. at school or a college). Part-time education or accredited training (spending at least 20 hours per week working or volunteering ). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 6:26:38 GMT
Of course they can and often do. Rubbish, a contract 'signed' by a minor is summarily voidable in law Minors (those under the age of 18) do not have full capacity to enter into agreements. The rules which apply to minors are a mixture of common law and statute, and depend on when the contract was made. Contracts entered into after 9th June 1987 are subject to the Minors Contracts Act 1987.Minors can sign and enter into many types of contracts, such as for summer jobs, acting gigs, or car purchases1. However, whether these contracts are enforceable is not straightforward. There are some exceptions to voidable contracts that are enforceable2: Necessities: A minor can enter into a contract for a necessity, which will be enforceable. Bank Accounts: Courts will generally require a minor to follow the terms of the banking agreement. Contracts Co-signed by Parents: Generally, the parents of a minor won’t be bound by the contracts signed by a minor. Beneficial Contracts. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 6:30:39 GMT
Porn is, by it's very nature a coercive environment and those participating in it are putting themselves in harms way. It is, wrongly in my opinion, allowed at the age of 18 but that does not take away the risk. 16 year olds should be protected from exploitation, don't you think that's right?
But you said, and I quote: "Nowadays young people have all the information they need at the touch of a button, they live in a vastly different world to the one we grew up in." - "Well informed people can make choices."In fact they are so well informed that they need adults to make decisions for them apparently. That is correct and they are well informed and that is not incompatible with manipulation, which we all suffer from, coercive behaviour and grooming, which 16 pluses are susceptible to. As the 'dangers' of exploitation are the same for older adults there is no reason why 16s should not be able to vote. |
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Post by walterpaisley on Sept 23, 2023 7:09:38 GMT
Those who vote are the ones whom politicians listen to.
The one constituency that get pandered to are the pensioners. They get Triple Lock pensions (regardless of how unaffordable they are), and the other end of the age spectrum get youth services decimated, crippling tuition fees, and are stuck living at home forever because the chances of ever getting on the property ladder are about the same as my winning an Olympic medal.
Maybe if younger people start voting (By no means a given, I grant..) older people will start legislating for them.
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Post by sheepy on Sept 23, 2023 7:22:11 GMT
Those who vote are the ones whom politicians listen to. The one constituency that get pandered to are the pensioners. They get Triple Lock pensions (regardless of how unaffordable they are), and the other end of the age spectrum get youth services decimated, crippling tuition fees, and are stuck living at home forever because the chances of ever getting on the property ladder are about the same as my winning an Olympic medal. Maybe if younger people start voting (By no means a given, I grant..) older people will start legislating for them. Since when Walter? or is this another desperate bid to con yet another generation, after Labours last outing of promising the youth political freedom within a couple of years they gave up membership because they realised they would get nothing of the kind, but just be more sheep to be herded. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 23, 2023 7:48:58 GMT
Nope. I’m pointing out your idiocy of using a criteria for children to vote that can be applied to infants . It's in your mind. The idiocy is in your mind and it should of stayed there . |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 23, 2023 7:56:54 GMT
Those who vote are the ones whom politicians listen to. The one constituency that get pandered to are the pensioners. They get Triple Lock pensions (regardless of how unaffordable they are), and the other end of the age spectrum get youth services decimated, crippling tuition fees, and are stuck living at home forever because the chances of ever getting on the property ladder are about the same as my winning an Olympic medal. Maybe if younger people start voting (By no means a given, I grant..) older people will start legislating for them. Here we go . Another well off leftie wanting to keep pensioners poor ( who happen to have a large proportion of more sensible right of centre views). State pensions are not particularly generous . Still that’s another subject. People should not be able to vote unless they reach an age where they have enough life experience to make an informed political decision. That’s subjective I know but it cannot be less than 18 years. It had nothing to do with whether they earn money , log in to the internet or how much pensioners get . |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 8:36:55 GMT
The USA decided on 18 years.
They also have age confusion, as it is illegal to buy alcohol until 21.
Age of sexual consent is 16, 17 or 18 depending upon which state they live in.
On voting the USA have it right, imo.
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