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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 2, 2022 16:26:29 GMT
The ONS has released statistics from the 2021 census indicating that the foreign-born population of England and Wales stood at 10 million as of May 2021. This is an increase of a third compared to the previous (2011) census.
The largest foreign-born contingent are Indians, followed by Poles and then Pakistanis. The largest numerical and proportionate increase has been of Romanians, whose population in the UK has increased almost six-fold since the last census.
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 2, 2022 19:00:31 GMT
France's is the same at 14%. Germany is at 13%. I'm not quite sure of your point. Is it something specific to the UK?
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Post by borchester on Nov 2, 2022 19:04:42 GMT
France's is the same at 14%. Germany is at 13%. I'm not quite sure of your point. Is it something specific to the UK? Dan is wondering why the rest of us don't get stuck in. Admittedly children cost a fortune, but making them is fun and the little buggers are strangely addictive
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Post by Steve on Nov 2, 2022 19:54:16 GMT
France's is the same at 14%. Germany is at 13%. I'm not quite sure of your point. Is it something specific to the UK? They are quite staggering figures. And in many ways appalling. You can't have a stable society with that level of introducing those with little stake in the country into an already overcrowded one. You don't get great stability having so much cultural strain nor do you get it by undermining the labour market. We shouldn't blame those that have come but we can blame those that allowed it and even promoted it for short term political gain |
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Post by patman post on Nov 2, 2022 20:25:14 GMT
France's is the same at 14%. Germany is at 13%. I'm not quite sure of your point. Is it something specific to the UK? They are quite staggering figures. And in many ways appalling. You can't have a stable society with that level of introducing those with little stake in the country into an already overcrowded one. You don't get great stability having so much cultural strain nor do you get it by undermining the labour market. We shouldn't blame those that have come but we can blame those that allowed it and even promoted it for short term political gain I suspect I’ve very little British dna even though I was born here with a Mum who was also born here. Dad’s an immigrant and worked at Ford for as long as I can remember. Mum is a senior nurse in the NHS. I work in an a London office of an international accountancy/business consultancy. My apologies for my parents and siblings and I, for causing so much cultural strain… |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 2, 2022 20:38:35 GMT
And most of them a valuable asset to this country may it long continue
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Post by roots on Nov 2, 2022 20:38:58 GMT
Will you provide accommodation for a migrant that arrived here on a boat last week, doesn't have a job and more than likely no form of identification, Patman?
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Post by patman post on Nov 2, 2022 20:52:59 GMT
Will you provide accommodation for a migrant that arrived here on a boat last week, doesn't have a job and more than likely no form of identification, Patman? I’m sharing a home with a Norwegian and our two-and-a-bit children. Both adults are paying tax, so I guess we’re doing as much as anyone who lives and works here to support the UK’s border force and immigrant care… |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 2, 2022 21:23:16 GMT
France's is the same at 14%. Germany is at 13%. I'm not quite sure of your point. Is it something specific to the UK? I'd need to see your source as well as the breakdown by nationality before responding. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 2, 2022 21:24:13 GMT
France's is the same at 14%. Germany is at 13%. I'm not quite sure of your point. Is it something specific to the UK? Dan is wondering why the rest of us don't get stuck in. Admittedly children cost a fortune, but making them is fun and the little buggers are strangely addictive
I don't see the answer here as engaging in a rutting contest. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 2, 2022 21:24:43 GMT
They are quite staggering figures. And in many ways appalling. You can't have a stable society with that level of introducing those with little stake in the country into an already overcrowded one. You don't get great stability having so much cultural strain nor do you get it by undermining the labour market. We shouldn't blame those that have come but we can blame those that allowed it and even promoted it for short term political gain I suspect I’ve very little British dna even though I was born here with a Mum who was also born here. Dad’s an immigrant and worked at Ford for as long as I can remember. Mum is a senior nurse in the NHS. I work in an a London office of an international accountancy/business consultancy. My apologies for my parents and siblings and I, for causing so much cultural strain… I am not clear on this. The point is as regards those not born here which you make clear is not you, your mum and I assume your siblings. Why would you feel the need to apologise for causing a cultural strain that no one has said you have caused? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 2, 2022 21:29:44 GMT
^ Yes indeed, it seems patman is being a little over-defensive.
There might be more for him to be defensive about when the statistics for ethnicity are released in a week or so.
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Post by vlk on Nov 2, 2022 21:40:10 GMT
I wonder how many Polish, Bulgarian and Romanian people there were as short time as 20 years ago. Only a fraction of today.
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 2, 2022 22:17:40 GMT
Will you provide accommodation for a migrant that arrived here on a boat last week, doesn't have a job and more than likely no form of identification, Patman? You do realise that most migration is perfectly legal? Asylum claims only form a small part of our immigration. I know many people who were born abroad, but very few have come as asylum seekers. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 2, 2022 22:28:09 GMT
Will you provide accommodation for a migrant that arrived here on a boat last week, doesn't have a job and more than likely no form of identification, Patman? You do realise that most migration is perfectly legal? Asylum claims only form a small part of our immigration. I know many people who were born abroad, but very few have come as asylum seekers. Do you not see that as the crux of the problem, for ten years (and many more before that) teh electorate voted for policies to strictly control immigration indeed down to tens of thousands for nett migration. With that number being exceeded ten fold and with the numbers that the Tories promised to control down to actually coming across in small boats in addition to nett migration there is the wholesale ignoring of the electorate's wishes. We know that Labour will not be any better, and in fact assume they will be far worse. The asylum seeker numbers are the straw on the camel's back and the fact that the nearest war is at the far end of Europe and the neighbouring countries are as safe as if not safer, than the UK does not help. |
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