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Post by jonksy on Sept 15, 2023 7:20:13 GMT
Why would the UK want to ban a superior product? To protect its own market. Have you not seen the UK farmers reactions? What and fill it with offal fed beef. No wonder all the EUSSR'S higher echelon are as mad as hatters. |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 15, 2023 8:19:49 GMT
To protect its own market. Have you not seen the UK farmers reactions? Was this an issue when we were in the EU? - where was the concern for the UK farmers then when they were subject to unlimited competition from farmers in other EU members. Market forces. The sale of UK meat dropped significantly after BSE and foot and mouth. It never really returned. There is a strong preference across the EU to buy local produce. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 15, 2023 11:00:17 GMT
Was this an issue when we were in the EU? - where was the concern for the UK farmers then when they were subject to unlimited competition from farmers in other EU members. Market forces. The sale of UK meat dropped significantly after BSE and foot and mouth. It never really returned. There is a strong preference across the EU to buy local produce. Well you are free to do whatever you want - if we swap from imported European meat to imported Australian meat then it makes not a blind bit of difference to the consumer in the UK. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 15, 2023 11:06:42 GMT
If you buy your meat from reputable sources including supermarkets you are at least sure they are safe, no good moaning about quality when you've bought cheap meat from cockney Dave out of the back a trany van.
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 15, 2023 14:02:34 GMT
Market forces. The sale of UK meat dropped significantly after BSE and foot and mouth. It never really returned. There is a strong preference across the EU to buy local produce. Well you are free to do whatever you want - if we swap from imported European meat to imported Australian meat then it makes not a blind bit of difference to the consumer in the UK. You could buy British beef... |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 15, 2023 14:06:49 GMT
Why would the UK want to ban a superior product? To protect its own market. Have you not seen the UK farmers reactions? Would you ban French beef? Irish beef? German beef? No. Which means your argument isn't actually based on protecting the market, but protecting the EU from foreigners. As for Australian beef, if it's humanely transported and humanely slaughtered, I'd eat it. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 15, 2023 14:34:34 GMT
To protect its own market. Have you not seen the UK farmers reactions? Would you ban French beef? Irish beef? German beef? No. Which means your argument isn't actually based on protecting the market, but protecting the EU from foreigners. As for Australian beef, if it's humanely transported and humanely slaughtered, I'd eat it. And rest assured you can rely their beef is not fed on offal.....The same can't be said for the EUSSR who have broken their own directive..
EUSSR to lift ban on animal by-products for livestock food..
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Post by Vinny on Sept 15, 2023 14:35:22 GMT
The steelworks at Port Talbot have received £500m in state aid, that wouldn't have been possible if we'd stayed in the EU. The Commission wouldn't have allowed it.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 15, 2023 15:07:35 GMT
The steelworks at Port Talbot have received £500m in state aid, that wouldn't have been possible if we'd stayed in the EU. The Commission wouldn't have allowed it. The positives outnumber the negatives Vinny. No wonder the remnants are spitting feathers. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 15, 2023 17:23:49 GMT
Well you are free to do whatever you want - if we swap from imported European meat to imported Australian meat then it makes not a blind bit of difference to the consumer in the UK. You could buy British beef... We do - but we dont make enough. Hence the imports from places like Ireland. All that is going to happen is that we are swapping Ireland as a supplier for Australia. |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 15, 2023 18:00:31 GMT
You could buy British beef... We do - but we dont make enough. Hence the imports from places like Ireland. All that is going to happen is that we are swapping Ireland as a supplier for Australia. And the energy and pollution costs of the distance. Bonkers. And for no mature serious reason. |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 15, 2023 18:13:08 GMT
The steelworks at Port Talbot have received £500m in state aid, that wouldn't have been possible if we'd stayed in the EU. The Commission wouldn't have allowed it. The positives outnumber the negatives Vinny. No wonder the remnants are spitting feathers. The commission cannot allow or disallow anything. They cant vote. Allocation of aid is through the council and approv3d by Parliament. Another example of utter ignorance. That makes three...a photo of the EU parliament to exemplify the commission, not knowing copernicus from horizon, and now thinking the commission can make decisions for parliament and/or council. IN ONE WEEK!! Neither you or Vinny has any idea of how the EU operates. How on earth you think you can make any contribution to discussions about the EU is all about ignorance and ego. I at least thought any opinion came from knowledge and therefore worth challenging. Now I see they come from pure ignorance. However i am quite sure there is no mileage in pointing out the huge mistakes. Egos wont allow admission. "I know what Horizon is". 😂😂😂 |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 15, 2023 18:39:49 GMT
Ireland is still a supplier, it's just in competition with the Aussies.
Competition is supposed to be something the EU supports, except it doesn't.
What it actually is, is a cartel of nations.
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 15, 2023 18:43:20 GMT
The divorce settlement is tiny in comparison to what membership cost us. And when we were members we couldn't negotiate our own FTAs. If you dont like the EU's FTA's, which the UK would have had to approve, drop them. No one is forcing you to keep them. Though it is true that the couple of teensy ones you did do, dont benefit the UK. But do cut that umbilical cord and be really sovereign. Go on. I dare you. We're improving on them. Now stop your whinging. |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 15, 2023 18:43:52 GMT
Ireland is still a supplier, it's just in competition with the Aussies. Competition is supposed to be something the EU supports, except it doesn't. What it actually is, is a cartel of nations. Hardly. When was the last time you saw Australian beef at the meat counter? It certainly wont be fresh, so will be frozen like NZ lamb. |
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