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Post by Vinny on Sept 12, 2023 14:07:20 GMT
so why waste billions more supporting the EU? It would have cost less to remain. No, it wouldn't. We were paying £9.5 billion a year post rebate. That's £12.3 billion a year now.
We've already saved £49.2 billion and gained an additional £47,689,378,592 that we wouldn't have gained if we'd stayed in, with an overvalued pound and the declining sales to the EU we had before the referendum.
Do the maths.
We exported £223.3 billion to the EU before the referendum.
We exported £340 billion to the EU last year, which adjusted for inflation is £47.6 billion MORE than we'd have sold to it otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2023 14:12:35 GMT
It would have cost less to remain. No, it wouldn't. We were paying £9.5 billion a year post rebate. That's £12.3 billion a year now.
We've already saved £49.2 billion and gained an additional £47,689,378,592 that we wouldn't have gained if we'd stayed in, with an overvalued pound and the declining sales to the EU we had before the referendum.
Do the maths.
We exported £223.3 billion to the EU before the referendum.
We exported £340 billion to the EU last year, which adjusted for inflation is £47.6 billion MORE than we'd have sold to it otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2023 14:13:33 GMT
We would have paid a 'share' of £56b not all of it, do keep up. Whar part of we are NOT paying them £56 billion is it that eludes you? What part of "we would not be paying £56b anyway" eludes you. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 12, 2023 14:45:39 GMT
Whar part of we are NOT paying them £56 billion is it that eludes you? What part of "we would not be paying £56b anyway" eludes you. We are not paying the EUSSR a bean so feel free to post a viable link that proves otherwise. |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 12, 2023 17:49:54 GMT
What part of "we would not be paying £56b anyway" eludes you. We are not paying the EUSSR a bean so feel free to post a viable link that proves otherwise. In July 2022, HM Treasury's estimate of the financial settlement when the UK left the EU on 31 January 2020 is £35.6 billion (€42.4 billion), an increase of £2.7 million since the OBR estimate in 2020.[3] The Reste à Liquider had increased from the original 2018 estimate of €20.2 billion to €23.8 billion and other financial liabilities had increased from €2.7 billion to €7.5 billion, a total increase of €8.4 billion since 2018.[3] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brexit_divorce_bill |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 12, 2023 18:05:14 GMT
What part of "we would not be paying £56b anyway" eludes you. We are not paying the EUSSR a bean so feel free to post a viable link that proves otherwise. More made up shittery. Why is nonsense permitted on this forum? Is it a freedom of speech thing? |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 12, 2023 18:43:36 GMT
We are not paying the EUSSR a bean so feel free to post a viable link that proves otherwise. More made up shittery. Why is nonsense permitted on this forum? Is it a freedom of speech thing? Nothing made up about it. As my links prove. Your beloved EUSSR do not have a pot to piss in now the golden goose has flown.....Serves the bastards right.
Flailing 'sick man of Europe' Germany blamed for dragging down Eurozone
EDIT......Oh and BTW its is yet again your beloved EUSSR who are trying to block free speech.
EUSSR accused of introducing ‘Orwellian ministry of truth’ to tackle fake online news
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 12, 2023 20:20:11 GMT
More made up shittery. Why is nonsense permitted on this forum? Is it a freedom of speech thing? Nothing made up about it. As my links prove. Your beloved EUSSR do not have a pot to piss in now the golden goose has flown.....Serves the bastards right.
Flailing 'sick man of Europe' Germany blamed for dragging down Eurozone
EDIT......Oh and BTW its is yet again your beloved EUSSR who are trying to block free speech.
EUSSR accused of introducing ‘Orwellian ministry of truth’ to tackle fake online news
You just actually claimed that we don't pay a bean? |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 12, 2023 22:27:31 GMT
Nothing made up about it. As my links prove. Your beloved EUSSR do not have a pot to piss in now the golden goose has flown.....Serves the bastards right.
Flailing 'sick man of Europe' Germany blamed for dragging down Eurozone
EDIT......Oh and BTW its is yet again your beloved EUSSR who are trying to block free speech.
EUSSR accused of introducing ‘Orwellian ministry of truth’ to tackle fake online news
You just actually claimed that we don't pay a bean? Not a bean of the £56 billion. But the EUSSR shag us over on paying the French to stop these illegals being thrust upon us and they do just the opposite. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 12, 2023 23:17:38 GMT
You just actually claimed that we don't pay a bean? Not a bean of the £56 billion. But the EUSSR shag us over on paying the French to stop these illegals being thrust upon us and they do just the opposite. Ah, you have changed your claim now. You must have realised your mistake! 😂 |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 12, 2023 23:23:10 GMT
No, it wouldn't. We were paying £9.5 billion a year post rebate. That's £12.3 billion a year now.
We've already saved £49.2 billion and gained an additional £47,689,378,592 that we wouldn't have gained if we'd stayed in, with an overvalued pound and the declining sales to the EU we had before the referendum.
Do the maths.
We exported £223.3 billion to the EU before the referendum.
We exported £340 billion to the EU last year, which adjusted for inflation is £47.6 billion MORE than we'd have sold to it otherwise.
Which is lower than if we had still been in. Wrong Put the pre referendum export figures into the inflation calculator and see for yourself. The value of our exports to the EU, is higher than if we'd still been in. Why do you think Labour, and the Liberal Democrats aren't talking about this matter? |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 12, 2023 23:52:53 GMT
Not a bean of the £56 billion. But the EUSSR shag us over on paying the French to stop these illegals being thrust upon us and they do just the opposite. Ah, you have changed your claim now. You must have realised your mistake! 😂 I have not changed my claim. I just added the fact that the French receive millions from the UK to stem the flo of the EUSSR's dross. Which is a total waste of money like everything the EUSSR uses tax payers money for.....And I see you neglected to pick up on your beloved EUSSR are attempting to stifle free speech of their member states. |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 13, 2023 6:12:07 GMT
We are not paying the EUSSR a bean so feel free to post a viable link that proves otherwise. In July 2022, HM Treasury's estimate of the financial settlement when the UK left the EU on 31 January 2020 is £35.6 billion (€42.4 billion), an increase of £2.7 million since the OBR estimate in 2020.[3] The Reste à Liquider had increased from the original 2018 estimate of €20.2 billion to €23.8 billion and other financial liabilities had increased from €2.7 billion to €7.5 billion, a total increase of €8.4 billion since 2018.[3] en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brexit_divorce_billI remember at the time the EU Commission were going to try and swindle the UK for three times as much as that. The deal didn't contain an exact figure, but the UK will have paid the majority of it by 2023/24 , and the UK will be paying small increments until 2064. The UK got exisitng trade deals rolled over which make the impact of the divorce settlement insignificant somewhat; where it can now amend and tailor those deals with it trading partners. The OBR (who you quote), believe the UK's divorce settlement is significantly lower than had it remained as a net contributor. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 13, 2023 6:34:01 GMT
Ah, you have changed your claim now. You must have realised your mistake! 😂 I have not changed my claim. I just added the fact that the French receive millions from the UK to stem the flo of the EUSSR's dross. Which is a total waste of money like everything the EUSSR uses tax payers money for.....And I see you neglected to pick up on your beloved EUSSR are attempting to stifle free speech of their member states. "We do not pay the EU a bean" and "We do not pay the EU a bean of the £56B" are not the same claim. 🙄 |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 13, 2023 6:40:40 GMT
I have not changed my claim. I just added the fact that the French receive millions from the UK to stem the flo of the EUSSR's dross. Which is a total waste of money like everything the EUSSR uses tax payers money for.....And I see you neglected to pick up on your beloved EUSSR are attempting to stifle free speech of their member states. "We do not pay the EU a bean" and "We do not pay the EU a bean of the £56B" are not the same claim. 🙄 FFS are you taking over from steve as head of moronic pedantry? And we are paying France not the EUSSR commision FFS. And I will ask you yet again, how do you feel about the EUSSR atempting to stifle free speech of their member states? You were the one who brought freespeech into the thread so it is not an atempt at evasion on my part. |
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