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Post by dappy on Aug 29, 2023 14:14:37 GMT
Can you give me some evidence to demonstrate that such a significant number of people are oppressed and/or the level of such oppression is so extreme that it would justify curtailing the rights of individuals to wear what they want?
Genuinely no idea what you are wittering on about re EU members having superior rights.
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 29, 2023 14:20:45 GMT
Can you give me some evidence to demonstrate that such a significant number of people are oppressed and/or the level of such oppression is so extreme that it would justify curtailing the rights of individuals to wear what they want? Genuinely no idea what you are wittering on about re EU members having superior rights. It's strange we always see a pattern emerging with the lefties, I don't even have to name names, because we know, and they know who the offenders are.
When challenged they always want to see statistics, they want to see graphs and charts, they want the data to back up claims, yet when you ask them to for the same proof they can never produce it, the typical double standard hypocrisy, somethings don't have and don't need statistics, data, graphs, charts, somethings are just common sense, and pure logic.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 29, 2023 15:09:37 GMT
Can you give me some evidence to demonstrate that such a significant number of people are oppressed and/or the level of such oppression is so extreme that it would justify curtailing the rights of individuals to wear what they want? Genuinely no idea what you are wittering on about re EU members having superior rights. You do know there have been honour killings in this country and that young girls have been badly beaten and others coerced by threat in to marriage,still if it’s only a few according to you no worries. The murder rate in the country is relatively low concerning domestic violence so let’s forget law on coercive behaviour right?
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Post by dappy on Aug 29, 2023 15:25:01 GMT
Eh? Are you suggesting that if we ban the Burka honour killings will stop? I don't understand the relevance of your post.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 29, 2023 15:31:53 GMT
Eh? Are you suggesting that if we ban the Burka honour killings will stop? I don't understand the relevance of your post. No course you don’t,so we should scrap laws on controlling and coercive behaviour because it won’t stop domestic violence or killings. Gun control doesn’t stop people being murdered by firearms so we should scrap that too. Funny how you are unable to understand when you can’t justify your stance.
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Post by dappy on Aug 29, 2023 15:47:00 GMT
Sorry I've genuinely lost you completely.
I asked Can you give me some evidence to demonstrate that such a significant number of people are oppressed and/or the level of such oppression is so extreme that it would justify curtailing the rights of individuals to wear what they want? For some reason you have completely abandoned the subject we were talking about and instead are talking about honour killings and gun control. Perhaps you could take a deep breath and try again to answer the question I asked you.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 29, 2023 15:52:42 GMT
Sorry I've genuinely lost you completely. I asked Can you give me some evidence to demonstrate that such a significant number of people are oppressed and/or the level of such oppression is so extreme that it would justify curtailing the rights of individuals to wear what they want?For some reason you have completely abandoned the subject we were talking about and instead are talking about honour killings and gun control. Perhaps you could take a deep breath and try again to answer the question I asked you. You can do more twists than chubby checker,pointless explaining to someone wilfully misunderstanding. Have seen you do it before and you’re really not worth the effort.
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Post by dappy on Aug 29, 2023 15:58:42 GMT
OK this conversation has got weird.
I presume you do not have any evidence to show that a sufficiently significant number of people are oppressed or that the level of oppression is so extreme that it would justify removal of other peoples right to wear what they please.
Lets leave it there.
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Post by Orac on Aug 29, 2023 16:04:54 GMT
I presume you do not have any evidence to show that a sufficiently significant number of people are oppressed or that the level of oppression is so extreme that it would justify removal of other peoples right to wear what they please. ..apart from the large numbers of people paddling across seas in small boats to escape the various knock on effects of Islamic culture? I'm going to assume these people must be discounted somehow
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Post by dappy on Aug 29, 2023 16:17:41 GMT
Feck me. Page 5 until someone turned the thread towards people claiming asylum. Is this a record for this forum.....
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Post by Steve on Aug 29, 2023 16:27:25 GMT
What a pity nobody has the gonads to do the same in the UK. . . .
Because we're a tolerant society that as a whole doesn't believe in harassing children as some supposed proxies for imagined evil.
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 29, 2023 16:28:19 GMT
I presume you do not have any evidence to show that a sufficiently significant number of people are oppressed or that the level of oppression is so extreme that it would justify removal of other peoples right to wear what they please. ..apart from the large numbers of people paddling across seas in small boats to escape the various knock on effects of Islamic culture? I'm going to assume these people must be discounted somehow Hey steady. They are coming largely from places where there has recently been political, not religious war. The largest numbers are from Syria and Afghanistan. They arent fleeing Islam. They are fleeing from those who "won" the war because they happen to have backed the losing side...that offered by the West. The less fundamentalist...the more liberal. Islam has many interpretations. The winners happen to be fundamentalists. But they all are part of Islamic culture and have no wish to deny it.
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 29, 2023 16:29:51 GMT
Feck me. Page 5 until someone turned the thread towards people claiming asylum. Is this a record for this forum..... Well i did warn you. The old hamster wheel is turning and turning.
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Post by Orac on Aug 29, 2023 16:32:52 GMT
..apart from the large numbers of people paddling across seas in small boats to escape the various knock on effects of Islamic culture? I'm going to assume these people must be discounted somehow They arent fleeing Islam. I disagree. People will identify various reasons; poverty, chaos, oppression etc; but Islam is root cause of many of these maladies - ie the largest single reason why the area is such a monumental disaster zone and so full of oppression.
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 29, 2023 16:38:29 GMT
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