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Post by zanygame on Nov 2, 2022 16:13:46 GMT
That is true. But on the other hand migrants are coming to the UK because there is work which our own layabout army refuse to do. So it is a small investment to secure the financial well being of the UK Not sure if that works. It seems the second generation in the migrant communities on average are even more unwilling to work than our own laybaout army and contribute to that army in greater numbers than their proportion in the population would merit I'd love to see where you get your info from. As far as I know, no government body defines benefit claimant by race. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 2, 2022 16:18:20 GMT
And who said I ever wanted to drag everyone down to my income level? That is a frequent straw man beloved of right wingers, some shit you make up and then attack as if it is something I ever said, lol. Which is clearly stupid. I do however definitely want the circumstances of those less fortunate than myself to be improved. And if that means people like you paying more tax - win-win. All your self interested bleatings achieve is convince me you deserve to be forced to pay more tax. Bring it on. lol And there, ladies and gents, we have the politics of envy in full flow. Thing is Shrieky, I don't give a flying fornication about your lack of personal achievement but why on Earth should anyone give a second's credence to your economic theories when you're a financial illiterate? You have no credibility in this argument. What? Your argument is that anyone who's not rich and cares about poverty is just jealous? And you think Srb has no credibility  |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 2, 2022 16:20:23 GMT
Not sure if that works. It seems the second generation in the migrant communities on average are even more unwilling to work than our own laybaout army and contribute to that army in greater numbers than their proportion in the population would merit I'd love to see where you get your info from. As far as I know, no government body defines benefit claimant by race. Check out unemployment stats and economically inactive stats. Easily available. I did not refer to benefits, I was referring to the comment as regards army of layabouts. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 2, 2022 16:22:01 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 2, 2022 16:22:58 GMT
What? Your argument is that anyone who's not rich and cares about poverty is just jealous? And you think Srb has no credibility... And Zany, whose wealth is based on an exploitative, low wage business model which he thinks makes him some kind of hero. Strange bedfellows you and Shrieky do make. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 2, 2022 16:52:17 GMT
I'd love to see where you get your info from. As far as I know, no government body defines benefit claimant by race. Check out unemployment stats and economically inactive stats. Easily available. I did not refer to benefits, I was referring to the comment as regards army of layabouts. To avoid confusion please give the link where it shows which are immigrants/ second generation etc. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 2, 2022 16:53:33 GMT
What? Your argument is that anyone who's not rich and cares about poverty is just jealous? And you think Srb has no credibility... And Zany, whose wealth is based on an exploitative, low wage business model which he thinks makes him some kind of hero. Strange bedfellows you and Shrieky do make. Please refrain from personal insults on this forum. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 2, 2022 16:56:13 GMT
Please refrain from personal insults on this forum. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 2, 2022 17:03:29 GMT
Migrant men are more likely to be employed than UK-born men (83% vs 78% in 2020), but among women, migrants are less likely to be in employment (69% vs 72%)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2022 17:36:03 GMT
And who said I ever wanted to drag everyone down to my income level? That is a frequent straw man beloved of right wingers, some shit you make up and then attack as if it is something I ever said, lol. Which is clearly stupid. I do however definitely want the circumstances of those less fortunate than myself to be improved. And if that means people like you paying more tax - win-win. All your self interested bleatings achieve is convince me you deserve to be forced to pay more tax. Bring it on. lol And there, ladies and gents, we have the politics of envy in full flow. Thing is Shrieky, I don't give a flying fornication about your lack of personal achievement but why on Earth should anyone give a second's credence to your economic theories when you're a financial illiterate? You have no credibility in this argument. It has nothing to do with envy and everything to do with fairness. Like I said, I don't envy you. I pity you. My desire to see you personally be forced to pay more tax has nothing to do with envy and everything to do with your personal character as displayed here. I know you would moan to high heaven about the injustice of it all. And I could do with a laugh. As for my qualifications, I have a brain and know how to use it, and am actually very intelligent and broadly knowledgeable. I have my doubts about you though because you seem to lack the intelligence for reasoned debate and only know how to make dull and predictable personal attacks, laced with the same old predictable tired canards - "politics of envy" and all that shite. Fact is, you are boring. Never an intelligent point or well thought out counter argument to test the brain cells. Just constant trolling. And you bring out the worst in me so it's a bit rich you falsely accusing me of wanting to drag you down to my level, when you are so effectively dragging me down to yours |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 2, 2022 17:37:04 GMT
Well thats not true - most migrants come in on non-work visas.. Work visas only account for about 30% of immigration into the UK. My Latvian friend did not come here on a work visa. But she has always worked. So that's not true either. Besides which, many of those who don't come in via work visas will nevertheless find work whilst they are here. But I guess you are one of those with this strange emotional need to believe that they are all sitting on their arses living off benefits. I'm talking about what the current situation is - what your Latvian friend did years ago is of no interest. The world moves on. As for your idea about coming in on a non-work visas and then finding work.. you could well have a problem with that..  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2022 17:38:31 GMT
And Zany, whose wealth is based on an exploitative, low wage business model which he thinks makes him some kind of hero. Strange bedfellows you and Shrieky do make. Please refrain from personal insults on this forum. That's all he knows how to do. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2022 17:41:01 GMT
My Latvian friend did not come here on a work visa. But she has always worked. So that's not true either. Besides which, many of those who don't come in via work visas will nevertheless find work whilst they are here. But I guess you are one of those with this strange emotional need to believe that they are all sitting on their arses living off benefits. I'm talking about what the current situation is - what your Latvian friend did years ago is of no interest. The world moves on. As for your idea about coming in on a non-work visas and then finding work.. you could well have a problem with that.. And I think you have a problem conflating students and visitors with migrant workers. And my Latvian friend is still here in the here and now, and still working. And still not claiming benefits. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 2, 2022 17:44:20 GMT
It has nothing to do with envy and everything to do with fairness. Like I said, I don't envy you. I pity you. My desire to see you personally be forced to pay more tax has nothing to do with envy and everything to do with your personal character as displayed here. I know you would moan to high heaven about the injustice of it all. And I could do with a laugh. As for my qualifications, I have a brain and know how to use it, and am actually very intelligent and broadly knowledgeable. I have my doubts about you though because you seem to lack the intelligence for reasoned debate and only know how to make dull and predictable personal attacks, laced with the same old predictable tired canards - "politics of envy" and all that shite. Fact is, you are boring. Never an intelligent point or well thought out counter argument to test the brain cells... And yet you keep responding, Shrieky. ...And you bring out the worst in me... Don't blame me for you. Ooh that's a bit Freudian, Shreiky - what with your Hitler cat avatar. Are you one of those anti-Semitic socialists? After all, there are a lot of them in your party, aren't there? Zeig Heil, Herr Shrieky? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2022 17:48:13 GMT
It has nothing to do with envy and everything to do with fairness. Like I said, I don't envy you. I pity you. My desire to see you personally be forced to pay more tax has nothing to do with envy and everything to do with your personal character as displayed here. I know you would moan to high heaven about the injustice of it all. And I could do with a laugh. As for my qualifications, I have a brain and know how to use it, and am actually very intelligent and broadly knowledgeable. I have my doubts about you though because you seem to lack the intelligence for reasoned debate and only know how to make dull and predictable personal attacks, laced with the same old predictable tired canards - "politics of envy" and all that shite. Fact is, you are boring. Never an intelligent point or well thought out counter argument to test the brain cells... And yet you keep responding, Shrieky. ...And you bring out the worst in me... Don't blame me for you. Ooh that's a bit Freudian, Shreiky - what with your Hitler cat avatar. Are you one of those anti-Semitic socialists? After all, there are a lot of them in your party, aren't there? Zeig Heil, Herr Shrieky? Now you are just being silly, not to mention demonstrating your inability to spell Sieg Heil. Feeding trolls does have its' amusements at times, which is the only reason I am bothering with you. By all means keep making yourself look daft. lol And you haven't even yet shown sufficient intelligence to have worked out that Labour is not my party, lol |
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