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Post by Pacifico on Aug 13, 2023 17:17:28 GMT
And then you admitted it would be a waste of money - a typical Scot Nats policy ..  Thats rich from a guy who supports a party that has bankrupted the uk morally and financially , wasted millions on dodgy ppe deals , immigration barges ,sold part of the uk down the river to the EU , and now seems content to let mad nad take a wage for doing nothing .On top of brexit , the biggest single act of self harm in the history of western european nations....
the tory philosophy of taking something for nothing is only to be expected in mad nad ............but the sinn fein mps and voters must have seen you and your party coming. £12 billion per annum to keep 6 counties that dot want to be part of your country , and is half way out the door already , with irish unity in sight?
Meanwhile pacifico screams ....leave our nadine alone......but.....but ....what about the sinn fein mps........
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 13, 2023 20:36:30 GMT
i don’t know what the protocol is today but the idea used to be that those entitled to vote chose one from among them to go to the palace of westminster and there govern, or loyally oppose government, using their best judgement and conscience, to their best efforts in the interests of their constituents. I have no idea what the requirement is today, but i say she’s deviated so far from the above she needs to have a serious and immediate re-engagement with the process, or be thrown in the thames from the terrace. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 13, 2023 20:42:23 GMT
Haven't we had MPs elected for one Party, who have then crossed the floor and joined another ? we have. and newport east certainly has. But you bote for the person, not the party, and as the chsrade in esles showed, when you vote for the party if the successful candidate switches you cant sack them. I think the case of a member switching allegiance is of little relevance here. You can’t in my view compare a member who continues to engage as a constituency MP albeit while waving a different colour whip, with Dorries who has gone back to the jungle big time. |
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 13, 2023 22:03:01 GMT
johnofgwent
Indeed, and in voting for Nadine you'd be voting for a Johnson loyalist above all else, who would wholly support a Johnson Government, and who would happily scratch the eyes out of anyone who played a major part in the eventual successful plotting to remove Johnson. If that person then subsequently becomes Prime Minister himself, then that would really rub salt in the wound, and if they were believed to be complicit in denying certain people elevation to the Lords ... well there'd be little to compare with a Nadine scorned. But as you say, she's not crossed the floor, joined the Tories opponents and voted against them ....more a case of finding herself unable to actively support a Sunak Administration. Then again, what is the extent of 'downing tools' on Nadine's part ? Is she refusing to answer constituents letters, or take up issues on their behalf ? .... or is her 'strike' confined solely to the Chamber of the Commons ?
My view remains that she's fighting an important and just cause. If it was possible for her to do that effectively while simultaneously not being an MP, then I'd agree with those urging her to step down now ....but it's not her who makes the rules, and given the current state of those rules, it's imperative she retains her current status. Alternatively Sunak could provide the information and answers she's striving to obtain, thereby speeding her exit ..... that of course seems most unlikely as it could well expose facts that would demand his own exit rather than calls for Nadine to go.
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 14, 2023 12:12:02 GMT
I'm not interested in why she disappeared from the list, I want to know what she had done to be on it in the first place.
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 14, 2023 13:29:43 GMT
johnofgwent Indeed, and in voting for Nadine you'd be voting for a Johnson loyalist above all else, who would wholly support a Johnson Government, and who would happily scratch the eyes out of anyone who played a major part in the eventual successful plotting to remove Johnson. If that person then subsequently becomes Prime Minister himself, then that would really rub salt in the wound, and if they were believed to be complicit in denying certain people elevation to the Lords ... well there'd be little to compare with a Nadine scorned. But as you say, she's not crossed the floor, joined the Tories opponents and voted against them ....more a case of finding herself unable to actively support a Sunak Administration. Then again, what is the extent of 'downing tools' on Nadine's part ? Is she refusing to answer constituents letters, or take up issues on their behalf ? .... or is her 'strike' confined solely to the Chamber of the Commons ? My view remains that she's fighting an important and just cause. If it was possible for her to do that effectively while simultaneously not being an MP, then I'd agree with those urging her to step down now ....but it's not her who makes the rules, and given the current state of those rules, it's imperative she retains her current status. Alternatively Sunak could provide the information and answers she's striving to obtain, thereby speeding her exit ..... that of course seems most unlikely as it could well expose facts that would demand his own exit rather than calls for Nadine to go. well, thats the thing. Who knows what her constituency work record is ? Only her constituents i guess. |
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