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Post by zanygame on Jun 25, 2023 22:22:33 GMT
I'm sorry, but I always understood from Brexiters that it was unfair to make them wait 41 years for a referendum. Are you saying that you think that was fair? I'm talking about reciprocal fairness. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Except the gander had no say in what happened to the Goose. In fact the gander wasn't even born at the time. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 25, 2023 22:29:34 GMT
I'm talking about reciprocal fairness. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Except the gander had no say in what happened to the Goose. In fact the gander wasn't even born at the time. Like I've already said, 41 years should do just fine. That gives you ample time to polish up your arguments as to why the UK should re-join the EU. |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 26, 2023 20:01:23 GMT
I'll have a go. Though I do expect a respectful reply. 1, That should be negotiated BEFORE any vote. We do of course still have costs in dealing with the EU, regulations and checks are still carried out, we just pay separately for those at the moment. 2, I have no idea, but then being a member of the EU is not about access to East Asia. I assume we will still be able to trade with them? 3, Firstly, can it be worse than it is now? But in answer to your question FoM means FoM. So as much as happens. We could of course change our benefits and health system to make the UK less attractive. 4, Currently, but over the last 7 years has done better. So I think we will benefit. 5, To be negotiated, but I didn't think it was a big deal anyway. About 0.8% of our economy from memory. 6, Ease of trade. 7, Yes. 8, Don't know. 9, I would. Indeed I think the terms should be clear before the vote. 10, Very little, Its only worth 0.08% of our GDP. but I see no reason to abandon trade with them, we would just do it through the EU. 3. I agree with your second sentence. The problem is, Brexit is turning around its service based economy from underpaid workers so we need to know and expect how much our wages will go back down. We also can't have more dodgy dossiers like Blairs predicting between 5,000 and 13,000 net annual immigration will take place. In 2023 we have 7.3 million EU nationals applying for settled status. So, numbers are important because they will impact on wages, infrastructure and services. Numbers are important for all the above reasons but also for the impact on cultures. The EU has the appearance of being a supra national government cosmopolitan in its make up but identical in its trans national ideology whereby Europe (and as far as the EU can extend further) will become one area governed by one overarching government. The trouble is democracy demands that that policy has to be approved and it was never proposed, never voted on and the electorate were not informed it was the intent. |
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