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Post by Ripley on Jun 14, 2023 14:03:30 GMT
If it's a crime, one of the three arrested must surely be the responsible party, no? If they were confident that a crime has taken place, I think the police would have charged one of them by now, don't you? It must be possible to trace the £££. They had auditors. Ripley, if a crime had not taken place the three protagonists would not have been arrested, a motorhome would not have been confiscated, homes would not have been searched, indeed if a crime had not taken place the three protagonists would still be in office. Sturgeon resigned because she knew damned well what was comming down the line like a freight train that even she couldn't stop. There's a reason that no-one has yet been charged, and that is that the crime is still unsolved. If the police knew the exact nature and extent of the crime and who perpetrated it, they'd have charged someone, wouldn't they? |
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Post by om15 on Jun 14, 2023 14:25:16 GMT
It has been reported by Craig Murray and others that the investigation into the missing £600,000 has discovered that other, more serious, matters have been revealed. The three interviews under caution are merely a prelude to a larger investigation, the fact that no one has been charged means either,
a) There are no problems, no wrong doing and it is a storm in a tea cup.
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b) The enormity of the crimes committed cannot possibly be satisfactorily completed by a large and experienced police investigation within two years and we must be patient.
Naturally cult members and the SNP separatists lean towards the former, whilst other more open minded observers may favour the latter. We shall see.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 15:20:21 GMT
I'm not sure about Craig Murray as a source, but I reckon he has a greater insight than most, he is a man who was prepared to spend 4 months locked up over a matter of free speech.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 15, 2023 12:36:59 GMT
Ripley, if a crime had not taken place the three protagonists would not have been arrested, a motorhome would not have been confiscated, homes would not have been searched, indeed if a crime had not taken place the three protagonists would still be in office. Sturgeon resigned because she knew damned well what was comming down the line like a freight train that even she couldn't stop. There's a reason that no-one has yet been charged, and that is that the crime is still unsolved. If the police knew the exact nature and extent of the crime and who perpetrated it, they'd have charged someone, wouldn't they? At least you concede that a crime or crimes have been committed, and since three people have been arrested and questioned at length, you must also agree that one or more of them are likely to know something about it. |
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Post by Ripley on Jun 15, 2023 14:30:22 GMT
There's a reason that no-one has yet been charged, and that is that the crime is still unsolved. If the police knew the exact nature and extent of the crime and who perpetrated it, they'd have charged someone, wouldn't they? At least you concede that a crime or crimes have been committed, and since three people have been arrested and questioned at length, you must also agree that one or more of them are likely to know something about it. If it has been established that a crime has been committed, (and I don't know that it has), one of the three arrested and released should surely have some degree of responsibility. Sturgeon has the most plausible deniability thanks to her political role, but I can't imagine how Murrell and the other chap could dodge responsibility. Even if someone lower down the totem pole was embezzling, Murrell should have been overseeing the finances, shouldn't he? But if the police have not been able to charge anyone, it suggests they haven't been able to establish the nature and extent of the crime, or even that a crime has occurred. Until we know the findings of the forensic accountants, we can't know if the funds were diverted to a legal purpose. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 15, 2023 14:50:48 GMT
At least you concede that a crime or crimes have been committed, and since three people have been arrested and questioned at length, you must also agree that one or more of them are likely to know something about it. If it has been established that a crime has been committed, (and I don't know that it has), one of the three arrested and released should surely have some degree of responsibility. Sturgeon has the most plausible deniability thanks to her political role, but I can't imagine how Murrell and the other chap could dodge responsibility. Even if someone lower down the totem pole was embezzling, Murrell should have been overseeing the finances, shouldn't he? But if the police have not been able to charge anyone, it suggests they haven't been able to establish the nature and extent of the crime, or even that a crime has occurred. Until we know the findings of the forensic accountants, we can't know if the funds were diverted to a legal purpose. Since the police are searching for £600,000 in missing donations I think we've probably gone past the point of asking whether a crime has been committed and to be honest, the defence of plausible deniability for Sturgeon is stretched way past breaking point when you consider she is married to Peter Murrell who was SNP chief executive and suspect number 1. Crimes of this nature, finance fraud, are notoriously complicated and time consuming to investigate. But I find it hard to believe that the Scottish police are so incompetent they would risk arresting the most high profile couple in Scotland, confiscating a motorhome and spend days searching their home, if they had nothing. |
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Post by Ripley on Jun 15, 2023 15:46:16 GMT
If it has been established that a crime has been committed, (and I don't know that it has), one of the three arrested and released should surely have some degree of responsibility. Sturgeon has the most plausible deniability thanks to her political role, but I can't imagine how Murrell and the other chap could dodge responsibility. Even if someone lower down the totem pole was embezzling, Murrell should have been overseeing the finances, shouldn't he? But if the police have not been able to charge anyone, it suggests they haven't been able to establish the nature and extent of the crime, or even that a crime has occurred. Until we know the findings of the forensic accountants, we can't know if the funds were diverted to a legal purpose. Since the police are searching for £600,000 in missing donations I think we've probably gone past the point of asking whether a crime has been committed and to be honest, the defence of plausible deniability for Sturgeon is stretched way past breaking point when you consider she is married to Peter Murrell who was SNP chief executive and suspect number 1. Crimes of this nature, finance fraud, are notoriously complicated and time consuming to investigate. But I find it hard to believe that the Scottish police are so incompetent they would risk arresting the most high profile couple in Scotland, confiscating a motorhome and spend days searching their home, if they had nothing. In the absence of any evidence, we don't know if the funds are missing or just unaccounted for. A forensic audit needs to establish where the money went. I don't think that has been done yet. The fact that they have found no evidence is puzzling. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2023 16:31:24 GMT
Since the police are searching for £600,000 in missing donations I think we've probably gone past the point of asking whether a crime has been committed and to be honest, the defence of plausible deniability for Sturgeon is stretched way past breaking point when you consider she is married to Peter Murrell who was SNP chief executive and suspect number 1. Crimes of this nature, finance fraud, are notoriously complicated and time consuming to investigate. But I find it hard to believe that the Scottish police are so incompetent they would risk arresting the most high profile couple in Scotland, confiscating a motorhome and spend days searching their home, if they had nothing. A forensic audit needs to establish where the money went. I don't think that has been done yet. The fact that they have found no evidence is puzzling. There's no difference. The money is missing. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 15, 2023 19:02:59 GMT
In the absence of any evidence, we don't know if the funds are missing or just unaccounted for. A forensic audit needs to establish where the money went. I don't think that has been done yet. The fact that they have found no evidence is puzzling. There's no difference. The money is missing. Psssstttt Wanna buy a cheap camper? |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 16, 2023 6:12:54 GMT
Well obviously, the Scots were not as smart as they thought they were, somebody was always cashing in on their dream of independence, be it their bankers, politicians and the EU. Eh? are you saying they don't actually give a flying one about the Scots, well no not exactly, they care more for the Benjamins and themselves than Scotland in general.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 18, 2023 13:25:45 GMT
Well obviously, the Scots were not as smart as they thought they were, somebody was always cashing in on their dream of independence, be it their bankers, politicians and the EU. Eh? are you saying they don't actually give a flying one about the Scots, well no not exactly, they care more for the Benjamins and themselves than Scotland in general. 'I have done nothing wrong': Defiant Nicola Sturgeon maintains her innocence after shock arrest in SNP finance probe - as she vows to return to Scottish Parliament next week www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12207733/Nicola-Sturgeon-says-certain-wrong-arrest-SNP-finance-probe.html |
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Post by om15 on Jun 18, 2023 13:39:47 GMT
The Scottish electorate don't emerge from this very well, it is obvious that the SNP under the Murrells were just a shower of weegie pikeys who were just in it for the money. As long as they kept gobbing off about independence the simpletons lapped it up, now they are starting to go very quiet as it is becoming obvious even to them how they have been conned.
Ferries, health, education, transport, HNS, good governance have all been squandered by these thieving gypsies and the Scots only have themselves to blame.
Now they are all going to vote labour and get Starmer, who it appears doesn't know what a penis is. And all they can do is get hysterical about Boris and a slice of cake, simpletons.
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Post by morayloon on Jun 18, 2023 15:09:12 GMT
The Scottish electorate don't emerge from this very well, it is obvious that the SNP under the Murrells were just a shower of weegie pikeys who were just in it for the money. As long as they kept gobbing off about independence the simpletons lapped it up, now they are starting to go very quiet as it is becoming obvious even to them how they have been conned. Ferries, health, education, transport, HNS, good governance have all been squandered by these thieving gypsies and the Scots only have themselves to blame. Now they are all going to vote labour and get Starmer, who it appears doesn't know what a penis is. And all they can do is get hysterical about Boris and a slice of cake, simpletons. As ever, a load of bollocks. Castigating Scots for wanting to end the Union is out of order. 50% aren't wrong!!! |
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Post by om15 on Jun 18, 2023 16:46:27 GMT
See what I mean.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 18, 2023 17:33:20 GMT
The Scottish electorate don't emerge from this very well, it is obvious that the SNP under the Murrells were just a shower of weegie pikeys who were just in it for the money. As long as they kept gobbing off about independence the simpletons lapped it up, now they are starting to go very quiet as it is becoming obvious even to them how they have been conned. Ferries, health, education, transport, HNS, good governance have all been squandered by these thieving gypsies and the Scots only have themselves to blame. Now they are all going to vote labour and get Starmer, who it appears doesn't know what a penis is. And all they can do is get hysterical about Boris and a slice of cake, simpletons. As ever, a load of bollocks. Castigating Scots for wanting to end the Union is out of order. 50% aren't wrong!!! Get over yourself the SNP have put the mockers on any indy2. Good innit so now suck it up. |
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